Trump to States That Won't Share Voter Data: 'What Are They Worried About?'

I showed you a specific instance where a republican voter cheated and this is your weak comeback? LOL looks like you only care if a Democrat cheat eh?

 

I wonder what is the real reason he wants this information. He is asking for too much information if only to determine that he really won the popular vote, or to clean the decks of illegal voters. This guy has an ego that won't quit, and is spending billions of taxpayer money on unnecessary projects, like the wall and this exercise. He is untrustworthy, and I don't blame the states for refusing.

 

OK, your President.

 

I agree, just pass federal law that every state must have a voter ID system and set out basic minimum standards for the law that have already been proven Constitutional, states can enhance them if they'd like.

 

We used to need a voter id to vote. What happened to this system? No voter id, no vote.

 

An over abusive and over bound stepping federal gov't?
The very thing so called RWers fight against. States rights. Oh that is just hot air, obviously.

 

Nothing like big gov't RWers showing their true colors. Small gov't freedom, State's rights, my arse.

 

(Washington, DC) — Judicial Watch today announced it has sent notice-of-violation letters threatening to sue 11 states having counties in which the number of registered voters exceeds the number of voting-age citizens, as calculated by the U.S. Census Bureau’s 2011-2015 American Community Survey. According to the letters, this is “strong circumstantial evidence that these … counties are not conducting reasonable voter registration record maintenance as mandated under the [National Voter Registration Act] NVRA.” Both the NVRA and the federal Help America Vote Act require states to take reasonable steps to maintain accurate voting rolls.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-...oter-registration-lists-face-federal-lawsuit/

Trump could have enforced federal laws instead of allowing Judicial Watch to file federal lawsuits.

 

Maybe they are worried about someone overzealously purging the voter registration rolls. It's happened in the past and often results in large numbers of eligible voters losing their right to vote because their registration was purged.

http://www.politifact.com/florida/s...y-clinton-revisits-floridas-2000-and-2004-vo/

 

You're.

 

No it isn't, it's that the integrity of our elections must be protected from ANY voter fraud. Show me an instance when voter fraud from someone proclaiming to be a Republican was defend by the right. Don't blame the Republicans because it seems most that we DO find is on the Democrat side. That certainly isn't a reason to NOT investigate it don't you agree?

 

It's up to the citizens to pass it in their own states. The feds do not run nor regulate elections other than for equal protection issues.

I take that back they certainly showed they could DISCOURAGE it by using the courts. But don't see how they can do anything to forcibly encourage it but open to suggestions.

 

Show me an instant those on the right points out cheating on the Republican side. I won't hold my breath.

I pointed out there are cheating on both side and all I got is a weak come back of ...."well, we didn't defend so and so." The boogeyman isn't on the Democrat side as was brought up in this thread. I have yet to see a thread about voter's fraud without this bias, have you? I would agree on an investigation if it wasn't so bias from the get go.

 

If you went to vote and you were not allowed to cast a vote due to a registration problem you filed a provisional and were given the opportunity to clear the matter up and have your vote counted in the number of provisional votes could affect the election. How many claimed they were not allowed to vote because of the voter purge? I don't recall any.

And of course one of the purposes of this bipartisan commission is to find better ways to purge voter rolls so I would think you would be supporting it.

 

Me>> Show me an instance when voter fraud from someone proclaiming to be a Republican was defend by the right.

I'll take that as an I can't. You're the one attacking Republicans support your attack of them.

You got a I don't care who it is prosecute voter fraud to the full extent on the law and put in place measures to prevent it in the first place like voted ID. Don't you agree?

The fact remains that it seems most instances by far occur with Democrat and it's the Democrats that oppose common sense voter ID laws. Don't blame that on the Republicans for that.

 

What is abusive and overstepping about this bipartisan commission which includes Secretaries of States and voting officials?

 

Many states immediately raised concerns and voiced their opposition to providing the information.

Kentucky Secretary of State Alison Lundergan Grimes (D) said that she does not intend to release the data.

"The president created his election commission based on the false notion that ‘voter fraud’ is a widespread issue — it is not,” Lundergan Grimes said. “I do not intend to release Kentuckians' sensitive personal data to the federal government.”

Mississippi Secretary of State Delbert Hosemann, a Republican, similarly said he won't turn over any information to the panel, telling members of the voter fraud commission to, "go jump in the Gulf of Mexico."
http://thehill.com/homenews/state-w...refusing-to-provide-voter-data-to-trump-panel

Voting are states rights issues.

 

I take it as you can't produce a thread where by those on the right actually claims that BOTH sides are perfectly capable at cheating instead of pointing a finger at one side. Silence on the issue that there are voter's fraud committed by Republicans is the same as protecting and defending them.

 

No, they are asking for more than they need to make a judgement. Why does he really want that information? If all he wants is to prove that he won the popular vote, he does not need all that information, and is spending millions of taxpayer dollars in that effort. He won the election, and I cannot understand how he finds time for all his gibberish. He should be studying the health care options instead, because he hasn't and can't concentrate on anything for long periods of time due to ADD. And he has shown this time and again.

 

They have a year and four months to fix it.

How about the Governments under zealous purging?

 

Wrong again ONLY INFORMATION ALLOWED BY STATE LAW. And you are in no position to try and make clinical diagnosis so spare me nor does your falacious assertion have anything to do with this bipartisan commission.

 

Sessions doesn't seem to be very effective does he.

 

Well then lets end the Mueller inquiery and the states can do it. Again it is public information this bipartisan commision including several Secretary of States is asking for.

 

There are thousands of examples of voter roll purges effecting eligible voters.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown...-why-126000-voters-were-purged-from-ny-rolls/
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/justices-will-hear-ohio-appeal-purging-voter-rolls/
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slat...ting_purge_federal_judge_restores_rights.html
https://www.thenation.com/article/h...ed-to-a-new-wave-of-voter-disenfranchisement/

Provisional ballots often don't count, or aren't counted for a variety of reasons and are not a suitable replacement for someone who is eligible and had registered to vote.
http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallp...ules-for-provisional-ballots-all-over-the-map

Seeing as voter fraud is a relatively small problem. I don't see why anyone would be interested in taking the risk of disenfranchising people's voting rights. The right to vote is about all we've got and if it is mistakenly taken away that, to me, is unacceptable.

 

You made that up. As there is no evidence to support that claim.

We all know that the only reason this commission exists is that Trump made the false claim that he lost the popular vote because millions of illegals voted, and set up a commission to ask the question he already made up the answer to.

Given the presence of Kovach and Van Spasofsky, we know that the real reason for the commission and for its draconian data request is to run a voter caging operation on a national scale.

This is illegal, of course. But the law never much interested any of these guys.

If you can kick a few hundred thousand legitimate voters off the rolls without their knowing about it in time for the next election, so be it. That's what Katherine Harris did in Florida in 2000, and the GOP has tried caging operations ever since (and usually got caught at it).

To my knowledge, no one on this commission is talking about voter ID.

They aren't going to. They want to do voter caging in a national level in order to disenfrachise legitimate voters and, as Trump has done (and as the Russians want) destroy people's faith in the integrity of the voting process.

No, for a national commission to talk about voter ID, they'd have to talk about uniform national voter id. And that the Republicans will never support.