Trump to States That Won't Share Voter Data: 'What Are They Worried About?'

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  1. TomFitz

    TomFitz Well-Known Member

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    Yes, it began with the OP, who made up a bunch of stuff and pretended it was fact.
     
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    Which ones did get not to cast a vote.

    They are not counted if there are not enough tj change the election results. There would be no need to.

    You don't know how small it is and in small close elections all it takes is a few fraudulent votes tj change the outcome and any fraudulent vote disfranchises a legal vote.
     
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    A bipartisan commission? The states responded negatively, and for good reason. Evidently they don't think it is bipartisan. Trump wants this information for all the wrong reasons, and the state governors simply do not trust his motives.
     
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    In those links I posted there were numerous examples of people not being able to vote.

    Provisional ballots are also sometimes not counted just because of the persons political party. Sometimes because people don't follow up correctly. Sometimes for no apparent reason at all. They are not an adequate substitute for voting.

    Based on the evidence voter fraud is a small problem. I could easily make the exact same argument for purging voter rolls. You don't know how big the problem is exactly. It is many factors larger than the problem of voter fraud though, we know that based on evidence. It only takes a few eligible voters not being allowed to vote to turn the outcome of a close election
     
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    I do not think it would be hard to figure out who you voted for.
     
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    Actually there are examples in almost every election that the GOP has run caging operations in of people who were denied the right to vote. They numbered in the thousands in Florida in 2000.

    Pretending that they got to vote is nonsense. Keeping them from voting was the GOP objective.
     
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    You used the words Trust and Trump in the same sentence!!!! (correctly, I might add).
     
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    So you oppose voting by mail?
     
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    You would be wrong - I have stated many times that I thought both Trump and Clinton were toxic candidates.
     
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    I voted by absentee ballet, and I think that I needed to supply a copy of my voters id.
     
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    They are afraid of voter suppression. Is that a clear enough reason for you?
     
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    Show us an example of ANY mass voter suppression.

    It's comical to watch liberals run around like their hair was on fire over voter ID. Minority voting increased NOT decreased.
     
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    It's not that at all. It's that Americans don't want their voting data searched, analyzed and examined by the government. In addition, the information asked for was way too intrusive.
     
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    I think he's been told that, and shown that with links a few times. Don't think things can sink in.
     
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    states back to Trump, why are you hiding your taxes, what are you worried about?
     
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    Yes it is a bipartisan commission and includes a cross section of state election officials. What are these "wrong reasons" you are asserting. The secretary if state from Wisconsin was on a radio show I was listening to yesterday he is on the commission and he said that the information is available in his state to anyone who request it and pays the $30 charge for it.
     
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    "Many of these counties have been hot spots for voting discrimination. Cochise County, on the Mexico border, which is 30 percent Latino, was sued by the Justice Department in 2006 failing to print election materials in Spanish or have Spanish-speaking poll workers, in violation of the VRA."
    Who votes but cannot speak or does not have a working knowlege of English?

    And BTW what your article discusses is part jf what the commission will look into so why the objection to it.
     
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    Since when do you need people around you to speak Spanish to see and comprehend a last name?
     
  21. Professor Peabody

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    Oh please, do you file a tax return every year? What could be more intrusive.
     
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    Who? Where were they? Where were the lawsuits? And again you cast a provisional ballot.
     
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    ROFL who do you think maintains the data? The GOVERNMENT. It is PUBLIC DATA why do havensuch difficulty comprehending that?
     
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    I'm not saying it's a rational thing. I'm just saying what the perception is. Personally, I could care less, provided that the feds handling the data are following proper protocols for PII data. (PII data meaning Personally Identifiable Information).
     
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    I'm not saying what I feel about it necessarily. I'm talking about the perception, based on what I've read about people's views of this. And many people do think that their actual votes will be revealed (they won't), which is very intrusive.
     

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