I don't think I've ever seen a politician so brazenly dishonest as Trump. Someone like Chevez probably was as bad for making completely inaccurate and easily dismissed claims about the health of his country and the effectiveness of his policies but he must have had some grasp of the truth to get elected. In any event here are the out-and-out falsehoods. And they aren't even grey areas - they're bold-faced lies. The most common refrain I hear about Trump is that he "tells it like it is". Clearly that's not true. And before everyone gets on here and talks about Obama - he's not running. And if you're planning diverting attention toward Hillary, yeah she lies too but no where nearly to the degree Trump fibs. If you think she does post a list.
If you can't see that Hillary wins all the gold medals for destructive lies and deceptions, you haven't been living among the rest of us. And you certainly haven't been keeping up with dozens of PF topics that cover Hillary's lies from A-Z. The information is there with any kind of simple search. Regardless, Trump is certainly guilty of gross exaggerations and playing loose with facts. It's not pretty, but that's just how he goes about things. In any comparison with Hillary, I don't believe he could look in the eyes of the families of the Benghazi dead and tell stone cold lies for political gain. It takes a person reserving a special place in Hell to pull that kind of dishonesty off. Do you understand the fundamental differences in their respective behaviors??
Yes I do. Hillary is a politician with the usual habits and failings. Trump is very likely a real live Fascist.
of course Trump lies after all he is a real-estate developer. Have you ever dealt with an honest real-estate agent- broker or an honest developer ? No well I have not either. Anyone in real-estate sales or real-estate development is a liar.
Wow! Thanks for proving that Trump is way more honest than any Democrat candidate since Clean Gene. He was really clean - right?
Seems a funny attsck meme... from Hillary supporters. Is Bill going to come out and shake his finger at us?
So your position here is that lies by the candidates should disqualify them and the more severe the lie the quicker that should happen? - - - Updated - - - That was President Clinton along win his wife. So if lying disqualifies Trump then certainly Hillary has disqualified herself, of not why not?
Your response does not suggest you understand the depth of Hillary's dishonestly, which borders on pure evil. Picture yourself as one of the family members of those murdered in Benghazi. As the casket of your brother or son is brought off the plane, Hillary looks you in the eyes and tells you the murder happened because of a video. She tells you it was unexpected and spontaneous, and there was nothing she could have been done to prevent the tragedy. You later learn that she committed the ultimate sin in lying to your face. You find that she knew from the start that it was a planned terrorist attack. That if repeated requests for additional security had been satisfied, your loved one would be alive today. To add insult to injury, you find that the lies were rooted in protecting Obama's reelection campaign. Given all this, if you were one of the families who were blatantly lied to, how could your support Hillary today?? Just as important, how can anyone who understands Hillary's cold and calculating methods support her today?? How could you write this off as nothing more than "a politician with the usual habits and failings??". Please provide an honest reply.
I will never vote for Hillary..... You really believe that Hillary knew that the Benghazi attack was going to happen and let it ? Then you must also believe that : FDR knew that Pearl Harbor was going to be attacked on Dec 7th, 1941 and let it happen by not warning the NAVAL and Army base commandeers. Bush W. knew that the Twin Towers would be attacked on 9-11 -2001 and that on that same day there would be an attack on the Pentagon and a plane will crash in Shanksvilles PA caused by Muslim terrorists because Bush was a secret Muslim Little grey men crashed in a saucer in Roswell and the Air Force has them pickled at Wright-Pat The US gubmint produces saucer like craft using anti-gravity propulsion and flies them around the world with impunity.... The FACE ON MARS is in honor of our next president - Trump
Please try to come out of that cave and stop listening to that liberal radio horsesh$t . NO ONE lies more than Hil LIAR y no ONE !
Seriously man !! If there was an expectation of an attack Ambr Stevens would not have gone there at that time. The truth is that there was actually a demonstration at the consulate that day. The real bad guys took advantage of the demonstrations and attacked. There actually were demonstrations all around the ME at that time because of the video. Real life, war , politics, and foreign events are usually simple and are not either completely black or white. There is grey. There usually are not simple answers to complex situations. The upheaval and instability in the ME is not simple, there is not simple stupid answer. The only thing stupid is any person who expects a simple answer to a complex question/situation as is in the ME right now.
That's not what I said I said Hillary knew that the attack on Benghazi was a planned terrorist attack when she told the families is was all spontaneous and a result of the infamous video. That's recorded fact in her disclosed e-mails. We also know that Stevens had made numerous requests for additional security that had been either ignored or denied. If those requests for security had been in place, it's safe to assume that all those American dead would be alive today. This is all indisputable fact. There is no need to muddy the water.
Actually, Hillary made it real simple when she told the Egyptian PM the following: "We know the attack in Libya had nothing to do with the film. It was a planned attack -- not a protest". If you see 'grey' in this statement, you're looking for something that doesn't exist. Hillary made this absolute declaration to the Egyptian PM 2 days before she told the families of the Benghazi murdered that their deaths were due to spontaneous protests connected to the video. So the question remains: If you were one of the families who were deliberately lied to, how could your support Hillary today?? How can anyone who understands the depth of her deception show anything but distain her??
I don't think they care. Just like it doesn't matter whether he has realistic policies or substance behind his slogans. Voting Trump or Republican has become a religion for many. For others it is the hate of Obama/Clinton or the Democratic party that makes them vote for the other side. Basically... A lost cause getting these people to care about reality.
My latest and favorite Trump lie: Trump has stated, repeatedly, that wages in the US are too high, then throws a hissy fit and calls Sanders a liar for saying as much. http://www.politicususa.com/2015/12...-tantrum-bernie-sanders-truth-bombs-lies.html
He's busted on that one isn't he. If he becomes the nominee this inability to tell the truth is going to hurt him as his words get more attention.
Trump is a clown who exaggerates, and yes, tosses out lies. Does he lie because he's ignorant, by design, or because he has a broken filter?? It's probably a combination of the three. Few have commented because unlike you, they recognize that most of the stuff that comes out of his mouth is harmless. He's a bull in China shop, and he's most likely not going to get the Republican nomination. Unlike Trump, Hillary is dangerous. Hillary tells lies about deaths. Hillary tells lies about about mishandling secret and classified information. Now, I asked you specifically how you'd feel about Hillary if you were related to one of the Benghazi dead, and she had looked you in the eyes lied to you at the casket ceremony. Would you support her?? Would you expect anyone who understands the events surrounding Benghazi to support her??
I can't seem to understand the partisan rhetoric filling this thread. Trump is a liar? Well Hillary is even worse! This is simply another undercurrent of the 2 party system. Funny how in these discussions it's only a matter of time until political association becomes ammunition. The principles of our parties are not unfounded, they hold a framework for the formulation of polices based on primarily neo-conservativism and modern liberalism. However I think the real issue with a figure like Trump lies not in what he says or his right/left wing ideologies, but how the population reacts what he says. Plato said only the politician may lie. All of the presidential candidates must appeal to their constituents in order to become elected. Such a heinous example would be the promise of "Bringing prayer back into the classroom." This is of course unconstitutional in public schools, however the electorate likely does not know or care, and there lies the issue. If the electorate has very little understanding of the principles of conservativism or liberalism, nor the functionality of government, or even the philosophical principles on which the government was founded, then election will rely more on money, demagoguery, populism and slander than the analysis of political solutions. Not to mention an overwhelming majority of media institutions informing voters place their allegiance to a political party above substantive, objective, and informative content. Trump's success is the result of the people's hate for the politician. The population believes that the legislative branch is a government by the gentry, a puppet master, oil companies, take your pick. In my opinion, his appeal comes from people's hate for politics. They see a man who appears independent from the political process and thus has not been "corrupted" by it. The president is alway seen as the one who will save them from the polices enacted by the people they voted into office. Yet, voter turnout is in the toilet, and an overwhelming majority of incumbents are re-elected. The electorate is not performing it duty of participation and vigilance, yet they cry out in rage against the politician. When it comes to the Trump's lies, as I said before, the issue is that we have a population that does not care if his solutions adhere to accurate information and valid logic. They want someone to just fix it. That is the primary issue. Without intellectual technique, without contextual knowledge of government, without logic and knowledge of rhetoric, politics becomes more similar to a football game. What he says does not matter. He spews statements filled with false premises and invalid arguments, but so many people do not care. That is the problem.
T-Rump sycophants don't care that he is a liar, they will vote for him because he spews the lies that they believe to be "true".
