Trump's Raids are meant to terrorize Americans. So I decided to help stop this.

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  1. Jestsayin

    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am ecstatic that you are happy and we will now hear no more on this tioic.
     
  2. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    So that only confirms, as I already said, that your argument was fake. My previous answer is just as good the second time around.

     
  3. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    So you're saying that MS-13 approves of the Constitution?

    Do you?
     
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  4. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    Illegal aliens are not Americans. They are illegally here, and need to be deported (with the exception of the DACA registered people). Illegals should be living in fear, and then maybe they will self-deport. Legal aliens and citizens have nothing to fear from these raids. That said, all have the right to refuse entry without a warrant.
     
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  5. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    How do you recognize illegal aliens by just looking at them?

    Do you just call that number whenever you see somebody who doesn't look white enough for your "taste". Or who doesn't "speak 'meric'n"

    Do you encourage children to report their parents? For the good of the fatherland!
     
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  6. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Probably the same way you do.
    Why be insulting? Just your nature I guess.
     
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  7. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    Well I'm only going by what you write here, not your podcast or wherever you are saying things for me to listen to.

    So no answer to my question then.
     
  8. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    They didn't "miss them". They were right there! They just didn't have any grounds to arrest them. There was no crime! And now they know their rights.

    You have been lied to! Got it?

    It's so difficult to get to people who are this thick!
     
  9. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    You think we won't hear more on this topic? Trump will keep lying so long as the gullible right keep believing him. And if there is even one opportunity that he can harm one human being, especially if they are children, make no mistake: Trump will jump at the opportunity..
     
  10. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    Why can't you acknowledge that you ignored my questions in order to rail against Trump? Let's try again:

    You specifically said, "Do you think the American born children of illegals aren't terrified that they could come home and find their parents have been deported?"

    So, once again, are you saying that having American born children means you shouldn't be deported? I'm trying to figure out what being scared or having American Children have to do with the serving of a valid court order?

    Do we fail to serve valid court orders to American citizens because they're children might be scared?
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Being here illegally is a crime. Not complying with a judge's order is a crime.
     
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    Do we fail to put American citizens in prison because they will be separated from their children?
     
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  13. PrincipleInvestment

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    Someone's sure lying ... a lot. Trump told the (D)'s that there were a backlogs of deportation orders, and some would result in family separations. He postponed the raids, but it became abundantly clear Pelosi's do nothing politburo, was gonna do nothing to help the poor families facing deportation. Now I don't know who answered doors and handed ICE red cards, but it wasn't the fugitives they had photo's of. Got it?
     
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  14. Lil Mike

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    The question I asked was, "Oh, well why don't you please highlight where in the constitution a passage then that differentiates "American" from "American citizen?" ."Then I can continue to point out that you can't answer a single question.

    I don't know why you decided to barge in on a question to another poster, and THEN fail to answer the question! That doesn't make sense. However that seems to be the norm...
     
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  15. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    I think I'm sticking with my answer. You've revealed yourself quite well in this thread. I do thank you for that!
     
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    So am I to take this as you are referring to me or ALL the right leaning folks that post on this site as white supremist? I believe that's a no-no round these here parts!
     
  17. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    This is a superficial analysis of a very complex situation. As completely detached from reality as you can ever hope to see.

    So-called "illegal aliens" are Americans. As per the definition of "Americans" on any dictionary and by the use of the term by any English speaker who is not affiliated to the extreme right. But why should they and their families be living in fear? They are hard workers and are producing for this country. This country would suffer a huge economic loss if all of them were to leave. The large majority pay taxes and Social Security. The crime rate of illegal aliens while in the country is far below that of the general population. Most "illegal aliens" have lived here for years. Often their children were born here, and have never known any other country. There are humane ways of dealing with this problem. The extreme right doesn't know the meaning of the word "humane". And this is dangerous for everybody.

    This is just the surface. As I said, the problem is complex, and your analysis is superficial.
     
  18. Hoosier8

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    Like this one?

    American: a native or citizen of the United States.
     
  19. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Great! Because I don't.

    "Insulting"? I wouldn't think that would be more insulting to you than you claiming that people could identify illegal aliens just by looking at them.
     
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    I agree that the DACA recipients (benefit of the doubt since it wasn't their choice) and legal immigrants are Americans. The illegals don't belong here and came without permission deliberately. They are not Americans, unless you want to call them Central Americans.
     
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    Because it discredited your little intraweb meaning of the word! But hey, I bet you fooled 96% of your clan with it ;)
     
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  22. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    You know, my sig alerts people that every "comma" I post has been researched thoroughly, and that I suggest you do the same. The reason is that, if they don't they risk making fools of themselves. But the least you could do is read what I already posted.


    In New York City, ICE agents went to residences in the Harlem section of Manhattan and Brooklyn’s Sunset Park neighborhood, the person said. The agents were rejected by people at the residences because they didn’t have warrants, according to the person. New York City officials said Sunday there was no indication that they had returned.
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/immigration-enforcement-raids-begin-in-new-york-11563062969

    Doesn't matter who answered the door!

    And as Pelosi and every else with half a brain has said, these raids were not what Trump said. These are not people who committed any crimes here. Trump lied to you. Or they would have warrants.
     
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    Yes, yes they do :)
     
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    How are you going to decide who to send out those little red cards? Are you just going to give them to everyone?
    Insulting because you are saying I intend to identify them by their skin color. I don't have to identify anyone. I just informed people how they can report them. If, by some means I do identify them, I know how to report them.
     
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    The only ones being terrorized are the illegal immigrants whom the court has already given deportation orders or ruling on. No American is being terrorized. No legal immigrant is being terrorized. Perhaps you think enforcing a court order is terrorism. I don't know.
     
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