U.N. Votes 151-6 to disavow Israeli ties to Jerusalem :0

Nope. Don't settle next to your religious counterparts who hate your religion. And don't settle next to the religion you hate.
Simple enough.

 

Incorrect. There are several Arab states including Saudi Arabia.

How do you plan on making that happen? Nukes? Biowarfare? Invasion?

 

I suppose it is possible that the entire world is wrong and Israel is right. But that does not seem very likely.

 

I attended church and Sunday school in Arabia for 20 years along with thousands of other Americans.

 

Right, it has to be. Because if it wasn't, then you and other defenders of Israel would be in the wrong, and that simply isn't possible.

 

Europeans didn't colonize Saudi Arabia........

 

Incorrect again. There was the ancient Kingdom of Israel (and Judeah). In the modern age, the UN recognized Israel in 1947 and, again, 1949.

http://domino.un.org/UNISPAL.NSF/1ce874ab1832a53e852570bb006dfaf6/0b3ab8d2a7c0273d8525694b00726d1b
If the procedure outlined in the resolution of 29 November 1947 had been carried out, the United Nations would not have been confronted with a fait accompli created by hostilities in Palestine. The resolution of 29 November 1947 was, in a sense, Israel's birth certificate in that it legalized the existence of Israel, a State which would otherwise be a product of force and territorial conquest and could not be recognized by the General Assembly. In its Constitution, Israel recognized certain principles and rights enunciated in the resolution of 29 November 1947. Moreover, the representative of Israel had expressed his country's acceptance of tile resolution which had given it birth as well as of the other resolutions of e General Assembly and the Security Council. Thus Israel was proving its love of peace and its willingness and ability to fulfil the obligations prescribed by the Charter.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_ancient_Israel_and_Judah
The Kingdom of Israel and the Kingdom of Judah were related Iron Age kingdoms of the ancient Levant. The Kingdom of Israel emerged as an important local power by the 10th century BCE before falling to the Neo-Assyrian Empire in 722 BCE. Israel's southern neighbor, the Kingdom of Judah, emerged in the 8th or 9th century BCE

 

Yes, honey, the whole world is wrong and you are right.

 

Indeed. The "Arab League" might have been a clue, for anyone interested in getting one.

 

Right/wrong is not a popularity contest.

 

Because it didn't exist prior to 1932.

Review your history by looking at a map sometime, not just names of countries:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_Arabia#History
At the beginning of the 20th century, the Ottoman Empire continued to control or have a suzerainty over most of the peninsula. Subject to this suzerainty, Arabia was ruled by a patchwork of tribal rulers,[76][77] with the Sharif of Mecca having pre-eminence and ruling the Hejaz.[78] In 1902, Abdul Rahman's son, Abdul Aziz—later to be known as Ibn Saud—recaptured control of Riyadh bringing the Al Saud back to Nejd.[55] Ibn Saud gained the support of the Ikhwan, a tribal army inspired by Wahhabism and led by Faisal Al-Dawish, and which had grown quickly after its foundation in 1912.[79] With the aid of the Ikhwan, Ibn Saud captured Al-Ahsa from the Ottomans in 1913.

In 1916, with the encouragement and support of Britain (which was fighting the Ottomans in World War I), the Sharif of Mecca, Hussein bin Ali, led a pan-Arab revolt against the Ottoman Empire to create a united Arab state.[80] Although the Arab Revolt of 1916 to 1918 failed in its objective, the Allied victory in World War I resulted in the end of Ottoman suzerainty and control in Arabia.[81]

Ibn Saud avoided involvement in the Arab Revolt, and instead continued his struggle with the Al Rashid. Following the latter's final defeat, he took the title Sultan of Nejd in 1921. With the help of the Ikhwan, the Hejaz was conquered in 1924–25 and on 10 January 1926, Ibn Saud declared himself King of the Hejaz.[82] A year later, he added the title of King of Nejd. For the next five years, he administered the two parts of his dual kingdom as separate units.[55]

 

Dammit, TOG, historical revisionists hate it when you bring up facts!

 

Probably they would if they had any opportunity. Instead the land that was to be their State is bit by bit taken away. The Israeli intention is to soon annex 60% of the West Bank what was to be their State never mind putting East Jerusalem beyond reach and removing the Palestinians from there which she has been doing during the last few years.

It is recorded in wiki leaks Abbas offered the kitchen sink. That was not enough for Israel. - probably rightfully would not have been accepted by the Palestinians either but Abbas agreed to everything, still not enough. Israel has had no intention of anything but what she is going after now - all of the original land of Palestine and the Golan Heights. For a very brief period Rabin was correctly convinced that the only way Jerusalem as a Jewish State would be able to survive was if there was a Palestinian State beside her. Understanding that cost him his life and in reality was the end of Israel looking into a two state solution.

 

Sorry, bronze.

 

They have -every- opportunity, and have had it for decades.

Sounds like time is running out for the Palestinian who want their own state. They better get busy.

Israel seeks security. Nothing the Palestinians have done since 1967 gives the Israelis any reason to feel secure.

 

Jesus, Europeans didn't colonize Arabia even before it was a country proper.

 

Now you're on the right track, Margot. Notice that even the Ottoman Empire didn't "colonize" Arabia. Why? Because most of it wasn't habitable with pre-20th Century tech.

Again, taking history into context explains why things are the way they are. Remembering history helps us to avoid the mistakes of the past. Dragging up old fights and selective memory of history just perpetuates war.

 

The Palestinians have never been offered a fair deal ever since the Colonial Powers gave half of Palestine to 1/3 of Palestine's Zionist invader / occupiers.
With the exception of Rabin, the goal of every Zionist Government has been to kill or expel every non Jewish native Resident of historic Palestine via a "Provoke-Then-Massacre" agenda:

"Moshe Dayan, in his diaries said: "Our strategy was always to provoke the Arabs and get an appropriate response so we could attack and smash them."
http://www.sott.net/signs/signs154.htm


As long as foreign countries have bankrolled the Zionist Colony in Palestine with the most sophisticated weaponry American taxpayers can afford & $ Trillions(1) that is badly needed in the US, Israel has never had an incentive to make serious offers because AIPAC etc ensure that Israel gets whatever it wants from America anyway.

The Israelis aren't interested in more security as they face no genuine consequences for their land theft & aggression.

They want Palestine's survivors dead or gone:

“Nearly half of Israeli Jews believe in ethnic cleansing, survey finds”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/almost-half-of-israeli-jews-want-ethnic-cleansing-palestinians-wake-up-call-survey-finds-a6919271.html

EXCERPT “Almost half of Jewish Israelis believe Arabs should be "expelled or transferred" from Israel, a survey has found.
A study carried out by the Pew Research Centre found that around one in five adults questioned “strongly agreed” with the controversial statement, which amounts to ethnic cleansing under some definitions.

The Encyclopaedia Britannica describes the act as “attempting to create ethnically homogeneous geographic areas through the deportation or forcible displacement of persons belonging to particular ethnic group”, while a United Nations report in 1993 additionally specified the use of “force or intimidation”.CONTINUED




(1)“The Real Cost Of US Support For Israel, $3Trillion”

https://nwoobserver.wordpress.com/2011/02/21/the-real-cost-of-us-support-for-israel-3-trillion/

EXCERPT” While it is commonly reported that Israel officially receives some $3 billion every year in the form of economic aid from the U.S. government, this figure is just the tip of the iceberg.”CONTINUED

 

In 1950, they became Jordanian citizens, with all the rights thereof, including the right to vote for their representation in the Jordanian legislature.
How is that not fair?

If that were true, said survivors would be dead.

 

The Jews accepted the UN compromise for peace and Isreal was tjeir reward

The arabs rejected peace and no arab state in palestine was the result for them

 

Mah ... I know Israeli environment [IDF included]. Generally [a part the extremists, as usual] they are not against the existence of a Palestinian state. The problem is where. I guess the situation is not different in Palestinian field.

Rabin had killed by an extremist [a Jewish extremist] and this is an other evidence that Palestinians are following the wrong path ... it's not impossible that an Hamas extremist could kill Abbas as well.

 

You're not serious.

I'm talking about the native residents of Palestine not Jordan. The same 800,000 that were either massacred or expelled from their homes by foreign Zionist Terrorist Gangs who came from far away for "Free Land"

When I said: "They want Palestine's survivors dead or gone:", you replied:

There are about 1 million holocaust survivors today so does that mean that there was no holocaust?

 

Yup.
They became Jordanians in 1950 and remained Jordanians until 1988 when Jordan took back their citizenship and gave up its claim in the land - which then reverted to Israel. Had Jordan not initiated the war with Israel in 1967, they would either still be Jordanians or have their own state right now.

My statement was entirely accurate - if Israel wanted to exterminate the Palestinians, they would be dead.

 

Says the guy who stated

 

When was Gaza etc ever considered part of Jordan?

I guess you also don't believe the Nazis were serious about killing Jews either.