U.S. drone strike kills 30 pine nut farm workers in Afghanistan

Oh, it's not easy at all. Did you see the movie "Munich"? That's the kind of thing we need to be doing. It's hard and expensive and risky, and so we do the easy thing: lob a hellfire missile, take out the target, and the civilians that get killed are simply "casualties of war".

I always wondered too. I don't think he wanted to do it, but I think he figured if I don't do these drone strikes, and there's some attack on the U.S., I'm finished. But that doesn't explain why he kept up the policy in his 2nd term. That is a mystery to me, and I don't think we'll ever get the full story from Obama. I don't think that's a part of his presidency that he's very proud of. Trump, of course, could care less about innocent people being killed. Although, when those kids got gassed in Syria, I think it affected him pretty deeply. He doesn't have much empathy, but I think/would hope he has some.

 

The problem is there are probably hundreds of thousands of Muslim radical, not just a few like in Munich.

Trump seems to care more about the innocent unborn than Obama.

 

That's true. Still, how did we keep ourselves safe for all these years before these drones came online? Obviously, it can be done.

ROFL! You think someone who cheats on his wife with a porn star gives two shits about the unborn? Who knows how many abortions he's paid for over the years. When did Trump ever talk about abortion before 2016? Trump has a couple core beliefs. Abortion is not one of them.

 

Gee, that is a tough one. Every Muslim attack in America has occurred after we opened the door wide open to Muslim immigration from 3rd world nations. Every Muslim attack in America was by a 1st or 2nd generation Muslim from a 3rd world nation.

I think the answer to keep us safe is to increase Muslim immigration from Middle Eastern countries that we are currently bombing... that surely should keep us safe from Muslim terror attacks on our soil. The elites are right on this one, they are much more intelligent than we deplorables.

 

LOL, you sound like Barack.

 

https://www.knowdrones.com/

Drone operators with conscience speak out about the crimes perpetrated by drones, and the heavy PTSD suffered by those who pull the trigger.

 

Even the U.S.Navy is backing off of armed UAV's.
Instead they will be used as air tankers to refuel FA-18's and F-35's in the sky and for reconcense.

The R&D of armed UAV's (drones) began during the Clinton administration.

The first use of armed UAV's occurred during the Bush (43) administration.

The Obama administration went out of control using armed UAV's and Obama was warned that he was writing the rule book on how and when armed UAV's can be used.

 

That is hardly an unbiased website.

 

Any actual evidence of this?

 

Libs act like Trump personally picks bombing targets. The last President to personally pick bombing targets was likely LBJ who said something like "They don't bomb an outhouse without my approval."

It is time to get out of Afghanistan which I think Trump will do in the next two years. The problem is a deal has to be made with the Taliban -- who without a deal will cross the Pakistan border in mass when we leave and slaughter our so called friends and again take over Afghanistan. Is this to be the legacy of the US in military conflicts. Great in the short run but in the long run give up and quit? Just asking. My personal opinion is I would rather see the troops we have deployed in Afghanistan put on our SouthWest border and told to establish free fire zones.

Whatever happens let's not have another mass immigration of "boat people" equivalents, i.e., people who came to the US to flee communism and end up voting for left wing socialists in CA and VA.

 

The Vietnam War could have been won and brought to an end three times before Nixon did in 72/73 that he wanted to do back in 1969 but didn't because he inherited LBJ stupid policies.

The war in Vietnam could have been won and brought to an end in 1965, 1968 and 1969.

The Vietnam War could have quickly been won back in 1965 if LBJ hadn't mictomanged the air war over North Vietnam.

LBJ's ROE were insane. American pilots couldn't shoot at a Mig fighter if the landing gear were down !!! Which meant any Mig on the ground was off limits.

 

Rawdodding a porn star after your wife gives birth? A person who will do that will do a lot of shady things, including pay for abortions. But I don't have specific evidence. Just a hunch coupled with Trump's complete lack of a moral compass.

Still, would you be surprised if it turned out Trump did pay for an abortion? I wouldn't be. I doubt you would be. He's a cad.

 

Trump is possibly our most pro-life POTUS ever.

https://rewire.news/article/2019/03/01/at-cpac-trump-lauded-as-historys-most-pro-life-president/

If he's secretly pro-abortion he's doing a good job of hiding it.

 

Like Dresden and Hiroshima and Nagasaki??

 

LOLOL.. How would you have stopped ISIS?

 

Oh, I have no doubt he's pandering like hell to his base. I doubt he believes a word of it. Or cares. Like I said, did Trump EVER care about abortion before 2016? It's not like he's a young man who's had a major epiphany. Or is a caring person.

 

No I wouldn't be surprised but given the explosive nature of such a claim I wouldn't be banding it about without some actual evidence.

And I still don't get this about "Trump cheated on his wife after she gave birth or while she was pregnant or whatever". Cheating on your wife is always repugnant whether your wife is pregnant or not. But anyone who has been around will tell you that husbands are actually more likely to cheat on their wives when they are pregnant or in the first year or two of a newborns life. For the simple reasons that the wife is often preoccupied and a husband often feels neglected and lonely.

 

Nonsense. Trump is a serial adulterer who apparently doesn't wear a condom. Such people often leave little "mistakes" behind. Trump is also rich and loves buying people off with NDA's. The story practically writes itself: I would be surprised if Trump DIDN'T have to pay for some abortion after all these years.

Yes, it is always repugnant, but there are degrees of vileness. A marriage can survive if a partner has had a brief affair. A marriage cannot survive if a partner is a serial adulterer. Well, it can survive, but only in the legal sense. I doubt anyone here thinks Trump and Melania have an actual relationship with each other.

 

Actually you are wrong about that. I've read some books on the subject and a marriage is actually able to survive "serial adultery" quite well because the repetitive nature of it shows that the partner committing adultery doesn't want any emotional attachment to the people they're screwing.

 

There are also swinger couples, who I guess are quite happy. But I'm talking "marriage" in a conventional sense that most Americans would relate to. I will grant you that a marriage can survive a partner who's always screwing around. IF the partner gets help and the behavior stops. Trump doesn't do the "IF" part. He chases ***** until he trades in the younger model for the older one.

But we're getting lost in a tangent. I was making a point that speculation about a possible abortion in Trump's past is well founded based on his playboy lifestyle. Remember, Trump partied with Epstein, so speculating about some abortion he might have paid for is really pretty mild. What I wonder is: did Trump bang underage girls? I'm almost positive Bill did. Trump seems to be more of a conventional creep. Although the things he's said about his own daughter were disgusting and disqualifying.

 

Do you have any personal knowledge regarding Trump wearing a condom you would like to share with the group here?

 

Comparing WWII to modern day low level counter insurgency efforts is a totally false analogy.

 

Excuses , excuses....ya, men may not get how even more repulsive and sickening to screw hookers when your wife just had a baby and may need her husband's support more than ever....giving birth to PRECIOUS LIFE should be a BONDING experience for parents NOT an excuse for Scum Dad to bang hookers..

 

Let's assume Trump [expletive] hookers and also assume Obama [expletive] various men in a Chicago bathhouse. The question to be asked in either instance is so what?

People that want a choir boy to run things can bring Jimmy Carter out of retirement. Hell, even Dwight [expletive] D Eisenhower got a little on the side and his social life was probably a lot tamer say Kennedy, LBJ, or Slick Willy.

 

Why hasn't Trump changed that rule, he has tried to change everything else Pres. Obama has done. What a bunch of horse hockey.