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  1. Bluesguy

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    Stronger that yours that's for sure and backed by the historic record as I posted and you can't refute.
    But do explain how Bush could have vetoed the Democrats 2009 budget. :popcorn:
     
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    the historical record shows republicans outspend democrats by orders of magnitude. This was backed by citation that I provided.
     
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    Bush's supplemental approvals have all been fiscally audited, PERIOD!
     
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    No. I live in California, the Liberals petri dish, and see the results of extremely high taxes. Poverty, homelessness, crumbling roads, and a shrinking middle class.
     
  5. Bluesguy

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    How many times do I have to refute this? It is well know it shows the Democrat Congresses spent FAR more than Republican and had far HIGHER deficits.

    Are you claiming FY2008 was a Bush budget? That Pelosi and Reid FINALLY won the Congress and simply passed Bush budgets? I have already shown you different. I can do again.

    Again explain how Bush could have vetoed the Democrats 2009 budget, stop dodging this discussion is at a standstill until you explain your assertion he could have. How many times do I have to ask?
     
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    The overall government spending deficit includes supplemental spending. The last Bush/Republican deficit was $161B. Two years later the Democrats had it at $!,400B and kept it over $1,000B for the next 3 years.
     
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    Who is John Galt?
     
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    They’ll be right back when the next democrat is in office.
     
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    Here you are again spewing the SAME thuroughly debunked junk you’ve been spewing for a couple of years now. Except this time you threw in the “supplemental spending” that I explained to you a few years back....But you conveniently left out that the sublime tail spending was from Bush, and was accounted for under Obama !
     
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    Oh just claim it was debunked in the past and dismiss it. Ahh no and in fact it remains unrefuted from back then, are you taking lessons from rahl on how to dodge? You conveniently left out the Obama was a full voting member of the Senate and support and voted for that Democrat budget in 2008 and that the Democrats cut Bush out completely on the 2009 budget so that President Obama could add in his additional spending request to the budget he then signed into law. I can certainly understand why you would want to blame Bush for those Pelosi and Reid budgets but that dog don't hunt. Do you realize how absurd to assert that after all those years the Democrats finally win back the Congress and then just roll over and do Bush's bidding?
     
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    The next "let's blow the deficits through the roof" Democrats? There may be some RINO's who vote for some of that Democrat spending. That's why they and the Democrats need to be replaced with fiscal conservative Republicans don't you agree?
     
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    you could try for 1 if you like. But you will have to find an alternate historical record to do it. The republicans, as I showed you with citation, outspend and increase the debt more than democrats. That is a demonstrated irrefutable fact.
     
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    because of the republican caused recession. Those tend to be expensive to get out of.
     
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    lol, I've refuted every pile of bullshit you've posted on this topic, going back years, and you know this.
    how many budgets were presented to bush with a veto proof majority? none. How many did he sign into law? every one that was given to him.

    Basic civics.
     
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    there is no such thing as a fiscally conservative republican. EVERY time republicans are in power, they outspend dems by orders of magnitude, and slash revenues at the same time. It is gross incompetence.
     
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    Yean blah blah blah when you can't refute the facts claim you have already

    Explain how Bush could have vetoed the 2009 budget.
     
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    Prove it post the numbers.
     
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    The Democrats took back the Congress and control of the government a year before the recession.

    And the 2001 recession, which of you just be blaming on Clinton, the Republicans did mostly the correct things and got us through with far less damage and into a full recovery. Something the Democrats failed to do starting in 2007.
     
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    that truth is incontrovertible - every forum right winger knows it, too
     
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    Are you also claiming 2008 and 2009 were Republican budgets?
     
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    I see your still just making things up, and refusing AGAIN to understand "supplemental spending bills". You also refuse to accept that Obama changed the way that Bush was accounting for the spending that Bush had already dones, which is how the deficits grew in 2009 since Obama was actually accounting for what bush spent. These are just FACTS. But you keep doing you .
     
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    Where were you when Trump added a TRILLION to the debt this year alone ? Show me where you chastised the repubs for that. Cause all I saw was you praising the right for there tax cuts (WHICH CAUSED THE TRILLLION DOLLAR DEFICIT)
     
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    but you know I've refuted your bullshit, repeatedly.
     
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    this has been repeatedly refuted.
     

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