US Exposed For Fake Humanitarian Effort In Venezuela

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  1. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's not just a claim, it is factually correct, and I already proved it.

    Its bizarre you support and defend everything he does and says, and then you are surprised when you realize he is trying to install a raving socialist to power in Venezuela.

    Heck, even the right-wing pulse setter Breitbart agrees,
     
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  2. AFM

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    There you go again claiming that Trump is a socialist. That’s just too funny.
     
  3. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Don't try to twist my words.

    I said Tump is currently supporting a socialist in Venezuela, and that is a fact. Whether or not that makes him a socialist too is another story, If the shoe fits, I suppose......

    You were ignorant going "all in" to support this, when you had no clue the guy is a socialist. It shows you'll support everything and anything without question.
     
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    Who is twisting your words. It’s ludicrous that modern liberals actually believe that Trump would support a socialist who nationalize private industries. That’s moronic.
     
  5. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I can't speak for 'modern liberals', since I do not know what they think, but what I am telling you is a matter of fact, not a matter of opinion.

    Your reaction proves you had no clue, and now you are in denial insisting it is some "modern liberal" conspiracy. Why won't you do some research on the guy Trump is supporting? He is a socialist.

    VENEZUELA'S STANDOFF IS SOCIALIST VS. SOCIALIST
    https://www.ozy.com/opinion/venezuelas-standoff-is-socialist-vs-socialist/92589

    The United States, Brazil, Colombia, and Chile announced their recognition of Guaidó’s presidency.

    However, a more nuanced international debate very quickly began to take place and numerous center-left and left-wing world leaders have come out in support of Guaidó and the Venezuelan opposition.

    For example, last week Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez of Spain, leader of the Spanish Socialist Workers’ Party, acknowledged Guaidó’s efforts and called for free elections in Venezuela. This should not come as a surprise, because both Guaidó and Sánchez are members of the Socialist International. Guaidó is a member of the Voluntad Popular (Popular Will) party, which has been an official member of the Socialist International since 2014.
     
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    Venezuela: Socialist International recognizes Guaidó and calls Maduro “illegitimate”

    http://en.mercopress.com/2019/01/30...cognizes-guaido-and-calls-maduro-illegitimate

    The Council of the Socialist International (SI) approved a communique on Tuesday where they recognize deputy Juan Guaidó and the Venezuelan National Assembly as the only legitimate power of leading a process of democratic transition in Venezuela.
     
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    Trump may have THOUGHT the guy was right-wing, but he is pretty much the opposite. The cluelessness of Trump leaves his loyalists looking foolish once again......:disbelief:
     
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    Did you even read the article?

    you said this "Distribute the aid to Guido and his supporters and withold it from Chavistas." No where does it say the USA is doing this. You are trying to mislead people or not providing other sources.
     
  9. Horhey

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    The purpose of the sanctions is to make the people suffer until they cry "uncle." Just like the US did in Nicaragua and Chile. The US then delivers humanitarian aid to the US backed opposition.
     
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    Yeah, right - Trump is now a supporter of socialism. Too funny.
     
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    With the communists in power the US aide would never reach the people. The US backs the opposition because they care about human rights.
     
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    They guy got elected. And there is nothing fishy about the amount of votes.
    The opposition boycotted it, and the gimp did not even get close to 3/4 of the votes.... which is needed to change the constitution etc.
     
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    Democratic socialism as opposed to a dictatorship trying to pretend to aspire to socislism.
     
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    Please explain that to your liberal friend PLFL.
     
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    Yes, he is, but I am not sure what the funny part it.

    You are a blind loyalist in denial.
     
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    How do you know that?
     
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    Norway and Denmark are Social Democracies with free market economies, while Venezuela is Democratic Socialist aka Socialist, where government controls the economy. Trumps boy in VZ is also a socialist, so they are trying to replace one socialist with another.
     
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    You are the liberal here. No, so sorry, you are a socialist, which is further left. The sad part is that you dont even know you support socialism.
     
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    Not accurate.
    The part underlined is the only socialism in Venezuela. Workers control over production.
     
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    It's amazing what modern liberals will believe.
     
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    Again. Come'on man.
     
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    And more. Your theory is that somehow Trump has tricked all those who support his supply side capitalistic economic policies into raving socialists ??
     
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    It is accurate about Norway and Denmark. If you disagree, you'll have to explain why. Norwegian government owns their oil company, and that IS socialism, but for the most part their economy is based on free markets.

    The government owns and operates 30% of the corporations in VZ, so it is not 100% socialist, but it's pretty socialist. Since every nation has aspects of socialism, I wish there was a scale to demonstrate how socialist a nation is. Venezuela would rank pretty high on that scale. It is not a model you want to follow.
     
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    Do you realize that you make lot of posts, all of which are "that's hilarious", "you are wrong", "come one man" etc......

    In other words you bring nothing to the table.

    If you think the person Trump (and you) are pushing to power in Venezuela is a right winger, they why don't you prove your point.

    Like I said, you are a blind loyalist, who is suddenly in shock and denial to discover your messiah is supporting a raving socialist.
     

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