US Holocaust museum denounces AOC’s ‘concentration camp’ remarks

i'm trying to not be pedantic or annoying, sorry in advance, but the germans did gased the russian. Hell, they were the first documented victim of zyklon B in Block 11 at Auchwitz.

Also:

"In early 1942, Zyklon B emerged as the preferred killing tool of Nazi Germany for use in extermination camps during the Holocaust.[20] The chemical was used to kill roughly one million people in gas chambers installed in extermination camps at Auschwitz-Birkenau, Majdanek, and elsewhere.[21] Most of the victims were Jews, and by far the majority killed using this method died at Auschwitz.[22][23] Zyklon B was supplied to concentration camps at Mauthausen, Dachau, and Buchenwald by the distributor Heli, and to Auschwitz and Majdanek by Testa. Camps also occasionally bought Zyklon B directly from the manufacturers.[25] Of the 729 tonnes of Zyklon B sold in Germany in 1942–44, 56 tonnes (about 8 percent of domestic sales) were sold to concentration camps."

 

I get the us vs them mentality.

I totally agree our "accident of geography" means we don't have the same issues with our borders that you do. That doesn't make us feel any more morally superior, it makes us feel sorry for you and those poor humans caught up in it.

And if a homeless person showed up in my yard, I wouldn't invite them to live in my basement, but I'd sure as hell give him a meal, let him take a shower and brush his teeth and send him on his way with a list of places he might find a bed.
I suppose you just shoot him for being a trespasser.

 

"covet"

Then that would disqualify conservatives who covet oil and invade countries such as Iraq and Iran to steal it.

 

Not everyone who is against illegal immigration views Reagan as a hero. I am against illegal immigration and Reagan is not my hero -- although he compared favorably to the totally incompetent Jimmy Carter in all areas including the economy, foreign policy, energy policy, and dealing with striking Civil Servants.

What I have noticed on this forum is that extreme liberals here seem to constantly use hyperbole, stereotyping, false analogies, and false equivalences and your last comment illustrates this.

Surely it is a bit of a stretch to suggest that something that happened in the 80s is the major cause of the current influx of illegals. But then this fits in with the ultra left view that somehow the US is responsible for every problem in the world. Yet the paradox (that maybe as a liberal you can explain) is people want to come to the US.

 

The USA has trouble taking care of its own homeless, how the hell do you want them to take care of thousands, if not millions more?

The rich won't pay for them. If you try to force them they'll just move their money out of reach like they did in France and Italy. The poor can't help them, so who's left? Oh yeah, the "middle class". Those who are already overworked, overtaxed and underpayed. And Canada isn't any different. I'm presently taxed and charged for about 46% of my income. Please, tell me how much more should I be paying to help people unrelated and totally unknowned to me? Good thing I'm retiring in 5 years because at that rate I'll be paying more than what I'm left with by that time.

 

Now here is a good example of knee jerk false equivalency and deflection. Firstly it is liberals who want money out of my pocket. If what you claim is true, the conservatives covet wealth from a foreign pocket. My pocket v. foreign pocket. Get the difference.

And your Iraq example is a bad example. What oil have we stolen from Iraq? Please support this claim. Iraq was and is a money sinkhole, not a profit center.

We did participate in a CIA operation to topple the Mossadeq government of Iran but this was not an invasion of Iraq (your claim or a US invasion demonstrates hyperbole).

 

Excellent post and I don't understand why what you say is not obvious to everyone. I don't understand why the middle class people who love Bernie and the fake Indian don't understand that the middle class will pay for the free stuff.

 

Don't know where you live, but in Toronto, we have trouble taking care of our homeless too. Yet we as a nation take care of our refugees and to those granted asylum.

Congrats. You are obviously making good money (over 250K/year) if you are paying 46% total income tax, using either effective or marginal rates.

I believe that the marginal rate can be increased on high income earners (over a mega buck) significantly and estate taxes increased (in Ontario its only 1.5% across the board). That'll cover it without impacting the middle class.

 

Most of those supporter wrongly belief that they'll be exempted since they're supporters. You know the same rational that many had in russia and other countries that tried socialism/communism. Useful idiots I believe they're called...

 

I live in a rural area. My driveway is hundreds of feet long. I would be a little paranoid about a strange person. I wouldn't shoot a trespasser but I would ask the person what they wanted and "invite" them to move on.

 

I'm in Montreal.

And I'm making 90k not 250k. You seem to forget that income taxes aren't the only thing that you have to pay on your salary. UI, fed & prov pension fund, health and medication/drug taxes, proincial worker accident insurance (CSST) and probably a few other I forgot, all of those add up and you can't opt out of any of them. Now add municipal taxes, shool taxes, taxes on gas, sale taxes and many many more and I'm way past the 50% of my revenue.

At least in some state you can deduce the interest paid on your mortgage from your taxable revenue but here this doesn't exist.

Oh, and I also pay for an elderly parent to stay at home, for a brother who has a drug dependency and I contribute to my niece university education...

So again, with what I have left, how much should I give to those I don't know or care for?

 

Keep raising the tax rate and people will just quite working. I know this from personal experience. Years ago I had a very high paying, high risk job. I had to meet revenue targets or be fired. I ending up quitting this job to work part time. It was just not worth it to me to work full time any more and pay high taxes.

And for the liberals who welcome someone one quitting working based on thigh taxes, hopefully it will be your doctor or your dentist who quits if Bernie or the fake Indian are elected.

As far as sticking it to the extremely rich people, the consequences are well described in the book Atlas Shrugged.

 

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/concentration camp
a place where large numbers of people (such as prisoners of war, political prisoners, refugees, or the members of an ethnic or religious minority) are detained or confined under armed guard

You were saying....?

 

Never again is the slogan of a Jewish terrorist organisation. And just because that is a reference to WWII, doesn't mean concentration camps are specifically a reference to WWII/Jews,... when it's historically totally incorrect and does a lot of injustice to other people who died in concentration camps.

 

Apparently you did not read what I said so I will repeat myself, Concentration camps WERE DEVELOPED [emphasis added] to concentrate a civilian population of non-combatants."

 

Sorry for the conflated posts in this thread. Responding to two threads at once.

 

I already speak a little German, because I took it in college.

Your entire post is rather an appeal to emotion, and way off base. I'm registered Republican for your information. Having currency that is the reserve currency of the world means you are a moral country?

Yikes, you think strangely.

 

Uh,.. who exactly do you think you are to claim your version of the definition of a word is far more relevant than what the freaking Merriam-Webster dictionary says? lol

 

Danke für den Kommentar.

Yes I do get emotional when foreigners bash the US. Sort of like many liberals get upset when someone says something positive about the US. Probably not a good thing to make comments based on emotion, but it is what it is.

First you said you are a foreigner. You claimed the world views the US as criminals. Now you say you are a registered Republican? So if you are now a US citizen, and don't like the US, WHY ARE YOU HERE? I can only assume here is a lot better than where you are from. BTW, I am not a registered Republican.

And I did not say that the dollar being the reserve currency makes the US a moral country. What it means is the world does not consider the US a criminal country. One does not trust criminals.

 

I pointed out the origin of the word, not the definition as you claim. Origin is relevant because morphing of language is sometimes a form of brainwashing.

I know this is a complex concept, but maybe you should read Orwell's 1984. He does a pretty good job of explaining it.

 

You are saying that raising the marginal tax rate on people earning over ten million a year is going to cause people to stop working in general?

I am mixing up two of your posts into one reply here.

You say you get emotional when foreigners bash the US. Policies that the US creates and exports, things like war on drugs, sanctions and tariffs on friend and foe alike, unnecessary and often illegal wars of regime change and covert coups that topple democratically elected leaders in other nations - often through supporting the most violent and repressive of right wing governments like so many in Latin America in the past of those in the ME such as Saud, tend to sour people on a country. Especially a country that proposes to the world that it is the home of freedom and democracy and then exports violence, exploitation and death.

In a true democracy, it is our duty to examine these things and criticize where criticism is due lest the elites who govern and the power structures they have put in place to uphold their privileged place in the world become unassailable to ordinary people.

Because what happens in the US is projected out to the rest of the world, it is the duty of foreigners to examine, become informed and criticize as well.

Politicians and corporate elites should be afraid of us or else they will do whatever they want in their own interests....which is where we are today.

 

You are conflating criticism with not liking. Without criticism and alternative views, with everyone just agreeing with what is, with the Government, there is no democracy. Maybe he prefers democracy while you want a society where every one agrees with the status quo.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_concentration_camps
The term itself originated in 1897 when the "reconcentration camps" were set up in Cubaby General Valeriano Weyler.

 

You shouldn't have to pay more in taxes, as I pointed out in my response to the first time you asked that question.

 

You made a lifestyle choice, not an economic one. There is no scenerio where as a high income earner who pays their normal taxes would not be way better off than a part timer even if that part timer earned a decent hourly wage.

Thanks for the nonsensical evidence that people will stop working if their taxes are too high.

HAHAHAHAHAHA! You'll have to forgive me if you are using Rand as some sort of prognosticator of human economic behavior.

I gotta laugh at those that think that how much money they take home is what motivates extremely rich people to work. You think somebody who makes 100 million a year is going to quit because he has to pay an additional couple few million a year in taxes? Gordon Gekko wouldnt, that's for damn sure.