Visualizing gun deaths – Comparing the U.S. to rest of the world

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  1. Hotdogr

    Hotdogr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Uh... your graphic is comparing the US with countries that have partial or total gun bans, and using 'Assault by firearm' as the metric. That's like comparing Montana to Florida and using 'shark attacks' as the metric. lol
     
  2. Pred

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    I came to the same conclusion. Despite some horrible exceptions, the vast majority of gun deaths are suicides and the lowest low of society like gang bangers and drug dealers. Allowing the country to naturally cull itself is a good thing. Cleans up the gene pool.

    Considering the whole reason we exist is because of guns, i'll keep them. I say, when EU begins to tear itself a part or faces a national disaster, the US should stay at home with all its weaponry and let them take care of their own problems. Lest see how they fare=)
     
  3. Foolardi

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    Like I said ... again misuse of False Equivalence.
    It's like lefties insist on putting their left shoe on the right foot to prove a point.
    When the real kicker is sitting on their tin foil hat head.
     
  4. SMDBill

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    Yet it's those in our liberal-run major cities doing most of the killing with guns. Interesting.
     
  5. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you have facts as in some FBI report on Guns used in Suicides.
    I know it used to be frowned upon to publish or report when a celebrity
    commit suicide.Like some Hollywood actors DO take their life by gun.
    But it's seldom mentioned like Brian Keith.
     
  6. Professor Peabody

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    Gun manufacturing is soaring. 10.8 million in 2013 double that of 2010.
     
  7. publican

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    Gun homicide rate after you take out the thug kills............. .00125% here in the USA. Relax. :roll:
     
  8. Greataxe

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    Tell how well Mexico has done with their gun ban laws. They are even more restrictive than the UK. There is only one gun store in the entire country, ran by the state police. Mexico should be a socialist paradise, with almost no crime.

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  9. AlphaOmega

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    Why not come over and try to disarm us? Then you can see the difference between free people and not so free for yourself.
     
  10. Deckel

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    I agree with you, but since I am an American and you are not, it is part of my DNA to taunt foreigners so here goes: If Scotland had gun ownership, then people like you would not be begging for your freedom from England. You would already have it.

    So, there we go. You are correct but I had to serve you anyway just because you dared speak truth about The Greatest Show on Earth. Consider yourself lesson-ed, spanked, disciplined, hoisted by your knicker petards or whatever else perpetuates your nation's inferiority over our nation's superiority.
     
  11. Lee S

    Lee S Moderator Staff Member Past Donor

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    The United States homicide rate is 4.7 per 100,000 per year which is below the world average of 602 per 100,000. In North and South America the murder rate is 16.3 per 100,000 while the United States has the least restrictive gun rights of any of the countries in the hemisphere. Considering that the United States has one of the least homogeneous societies, one could make the argument that United States homicide rate may actually be better than Europe's 3.0 homicides per 100,000 when factoring in the diversity of the culture.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

    Now let us look at the gun homicide rates by state to see if gun ownership or gun regulations make a difference in homicide rates:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States_by_state

    Clearly, the District with the highest homicide rate is Washington DC which also has the most restrictive gun control laws. If you look at the percentage of gun ownership of a state versus the murder rate, it appears there is a strong negative correlation between the number of guns and the number of murders. In other words, gun ownership seems to reduce gun violence.

    That is all besides the point. America was founded on limited government controlled by checks and balances. Gun ownership is the ultimate last redoubt against tyranny. This principle should be so ingrained in the head of every American that it is virtually unthinkable that there will ever be a thought of getting rid of guns in America. It just is never going to happen so I am not sure why anyone would waste their breaths arguing over it.
     
  12. everyman2013

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    Yeah, but not too long ago he claimed dual Israeli/American citizenship, supposedly living in New York. We're probably dealing with a split personality who may very well transition into someone/something else in the future.:wink:
    Enjoy!
     
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    LOL. What a crock of (*)(*)(*)(*). Places with the highest rates of crime and violence are going to be more likely to enact the gun laws to begin with. The gun laws do not cause the violence. They are an effort to stop it while people who do not live in these areas do everything they can to prevent these communities from being able to address the situation.
     
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    The problem is the Supreme Court's decision to apply the Bill of Rights (the first ten Amendments of the U.S. Constitution) to the individual States, when that was never the original intention. This was well intentioned, as the court wanted to protect people's individual rights from abuses and excesses of individual State governments, but this also has unintentional consequences because for this view to be consistent the Second Amendment has to be interpreted in the same way. The Bill of rights was never meant to apply to the States, it was intended to be a limitation on the Powers of the government on the federal level. Gun regulation should be a local State issue, and was not intended to fall under the jurisdiction of the national government.
     
  15. perdidochas

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    Our murder numbers are less than half of what they were during the 1990s, in fact, we are down to the level of violence we had in the early 1960s. Those numbers are high for a first world country, but are extremely low for a third world country (Columbia has about 25 times that murder rate, for example)
     
  16. Gateman_Wen

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    We are!

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    That was not meant to be taken seriously.
     
  17. Gateman_Wen

    Gateman_Wen Well-Known Member

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    As noted above, comment not meant to be taken at face value. I would rather no-one was getting killed, not even conservatives.

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    Wow you guys are repetitive. See responses above.

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    Do you all share one brain or what?

    See responses above.
     
  18. milorafferty

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    We don't have to "share" a brain, as we each have our own and can see what's actually happening.

    Unlike the left wing nut jobs who have to be told what to think.
     
  19. Gateman_Wen

    Gateman_Wen Well-Known Member

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    Ah, you think independantly, that's why you all made essentially the same comment.

    LMAO. Pull the other one, it's got bells!
     
  20. 1wiseguy

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    Yeah Johnny, that hope and change thing has worked out so well for OWEblamer. :)
     
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    Yea, we all think the Sun comes up in the East too. No bells needed.
     
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    Did I miss something? Black thuggery is the old "redneck"?

    Imagine that! :)
     
  23. My Fing ID

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    Yet gun violence stays high in those areas so clearly the laws aren't working. It would appear the only people being disarmed are those who follow the law as odd as that seems. Who would have thought that violent criminals would find ways to get access to weapons even if the common people were prohibited from having them. You anti-gun guys need to calm down with your stereotypes too. I don't know any rednecks but I do know a lot of gun owners, including a school teacher, a contractor, and myself, a software engineer. Sorry you've never gotten to experience the joy of target shooting. You really should try it some time. Just remember not to point the weapon at someones faces; that seems to be the first thing people who have never handled a firearm before do despite being told not to. (*)(*)(*)(*)ing idiots.
     
  24. Gateman_Wen

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    Please see my other responses before knee-jerking.
     
  25. maat

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    Unbelievable. I suppose the law of the land thing is just a suggestion.
     

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