Was Trump mad not bad. (or good)

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  1. Marine1

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    Of course if we had honest reporting with the news media, people would know this stuff.

    https://www.atr.org/thanks-trump-median-household-income-highest-level-ever

    Real median household income has grown by $4,144 or 6.8 percent since President Trump took office, according to an op-ed published in the Wall Street Journal.
    This data is based on a report released by Sentier Research analyzing the Census Bureau’s monthly Current Population Survey.
    As noted in the op-ed, authored by Stephen Moore, real median household income is at an all-time high:
    “Real median household income—the amount earned by those in the very middle—hit $65,084 (in 2019 dollars) for the 12 months ending in July. That’s the highest level ever and a gain of $4,144, or 6.8%, since Mr. Trump took office. By comparison, during 7½ years under President Obama—starting from the end of the recession in June 2009 through January 2017—the median household income rose by only about $1,000.”
    The below chart highlights the strong Trump wage growth.


    Economy & Politics: Income Gap Grows under Trump, Obama — but ...
    www.nationalreview.com/2019/10/income-gap-growth...
    Indeed, in a bit more than half of his term, Trump’s $5,003 mountain of growth in median household income is 346 percent higher than Bush-Obama’s $1,444 molehill of marginal middle-class earnings. https://www.nationalreview.com/.../income-gap-growth.../
     
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    Trump's Policy "Magic Wand" Boosts Manufacturing Jobs 399% In First 26 Months Over Obama's Last 26 https://www.forbes.com/.../trumps-policy-magic-wand.../...

    When the Left complained of all the money Trump poured into the military, the bias news failed to point out this.

    What the massive US military budget pays for
    www.click2houston.com/news/politics/what-the...
    When President Donald Trump signed the $1.3 trillion omnibus spending bill on Friday, he approved what his administration calls the largest military budget in US history, $700 billion.( to fix the mess Obama left the military in.
    Grounded: Nearly two-thirds of US Navy’s strike fighters ...
    https://www.defensenews.com/.../02/06/grounded-nearly-two...
    Overhauls — "availabilities" in Navy parlance — are being canceled or deferred, and when ships do come in they need longer to refit. Every carrier overall for at least three years has run long, and some submarines are out of service for prolonged periods, as much as four years or more. One submarine, the Boise, has lost its diving certification …

    70% of Marine Aircraft Can't Fly - …
    https://www.independentsentinel.com/70-of-marine-aircraft...
    Out of 276 F/A-18 Hornet strike fighters in the Marine Corps inventory, only about 30% are ready to fly, according to statistics provided by the Corps. Similarly, only 42 of 147 heavy-lift CH-53E Super Stallion helicopters are airworthy.

    Fixed the VA problem when Bush and Obama couldn't.

    Real change finally comes to the VA, thanks to Trump
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opi.../op-eds/real-change...
    Real change finally comes to the VA, thanks to Trump. By ... The VA Mission Act is designed to create effective fixes for these ... This bill does real good. House Veterans Affairs Committee ...

    Trump Sworn In: Corrupt VA Employees Are Finally Fired
    https://theblacksphere.net/2017/01/trump-sworn-in-corrupt-va...
    Leftist America realizes that Trump doesn't mince words. While Obama promised to fix the VA and did nothing, Trump fires VA employees...

    Scoop: Trump finally losing patience with VA Sec. …
    https://www.axios.com/trump-losing-patience-with-va......
    Scoop: Trump finally losing patience with VA Sec. Shulkin. Shulkin (L) at a cabinet meeting last week. Photo: Michael Reynolds-Pool/Getty Images. It took a few weeks to land on his radar, but President Trump now views Veterans Affairs Sec. David Shulkin as a major problem. Trump has been telling associates he doesn't know what's …
     
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    Spot on.

    We only think Trump is mad because nobody can believe that any sane man would be that evil.
     
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    So mad he did what no one else could. That's the kind of mad America needed when Trump came in
     
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    Trump is a fascist.
     
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    So what did Trump do?
    • The number of people claiming unemployment insurance as a share of the population hit its lowest on record.
    • Unemployment rates for African Americans, Hispanic Americans, Asian Americans, Native Americans, veterans, individuals with disabilities, and those without a high school diploma all reached HISTORICAL lows.
    • Lifted nearly 7 million people off of food stamps.
    • gained 7 million new jobs – more than three times government experts’ projections.
    • More than 6 million American workers received wage increases, bonuses, and increased benefits thanks to the tax cuts
    • Had Over 400 companies announcing bonuses, wage increases, new hires, or new investments in the United States.
    • Over $1.5 trillion was repatriated into the United States from overseas
    • Immediately withdrew from the job-killing Trans-Pacific Partnership
    • Ended the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), and replaced it with the brand new United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA)For the first time in nearly 70 years, the United States has become a net energy exporter.
    • The United States became the number one producer of oil and natural gas in the world.
    • Nearly 40 million families benefitted from the child tax credit (CTC), receiving an average benefit of $2,200 – totaling credits of approximately $88 billion.
    • Signed into law key pieces of legislation, including the Women, Peace, and Security Act and the Women Entrepreneurship and Economic Empowerment Act.
    • Created and funded Operation Warp Speed as without it you wouldn't have a vaccine that could be used for another 8 years
    • Filled all Court of Appeals vacancies for the first time in four decades.
    • For the first time in decades secured our southern borders
    • Secured a $400 billion increase in defense spending from NATO
    • Worked to reform and streamline the United Nations (UN) and reduced spending by $1.3 billion.
    • Recognized Jerusalem as the true capital of Israel and moved the American Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem.
    • Reversed the previous Administration’s disastrous Cuba policy, canceling the sellout deal with the Communist Castro dictatorship
    • Completely rebuilt the United States military with over $2.2 trillion in defense spending, including $738 billion for 2020
    • Secured three pay raises for our service members and their families, including the largest raise in a decade
    • Defeated 100 percent of ISIS’ territorial caliphate in Iraq and Syria
    • Killed the leader of ISIS, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, and eliminated the world’s top terrorist, Qasem Soleimani
    • Signed and implemented the VA Mission Act, which made permanent Veterans CHOICE, revolutionized the VA community care system, and delivered quality care closer to home for Veterans
    • First president to convene a meeting at the United Nations to end religious persecution.
    • Secured a record $6 billion in new funding to combat the opioid epidemic.
    • Signed the SUPPORT for Patients and Communities Act, the largest-ever legislative effort to address a drug crisis in our Nation’s history
    So what has Biden accomplished?
     
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    You need to get off the kool-aid mate .. your lips turning red. Half of your points are just wrong .. too many to bother with .. but will give a few examples that jump out

    1) "Defeated ISIS" -- No .. was Russia who defeated ISIS
    2) Soleimani was nowhere close to being worlds top terrorist -- Koolaid induced mainia - and a very stupid move .. but that is beside the point
    3) 6 Billion in funding to combat an Opiod epidemic his Drug Czar created .. what a joke that one is
    4) "rebuilt the military" complete nonsense
    5) Trump did F-All to address the drug crisis.

    You got some serious misinformation going on
     
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    What do you think Trump did? And, what kind of America are you referencing?
     
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    Real change finally comes to the VA, thanks to Trump
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opi.../op-eds/real-change...
    Real change finally comes to the VA, thanks to Trump. By ... The VA Mission Act is designed to create effective fixes for these ... This bill does real good. House Veterans Affairs Committee ...

    Trump Sworn In: Corrupt VA Employees Are Finally Fired
    https://theblacksphere.net/2017/01/trump-sworn-in-corrupt-va...
    Leftist America realizes that Trump doesn't mince words. While Obama promised to fix the VA and did nothing, Trump fires VA employees...

    Scoop: Trump finally losing patience with VA Sec. …
    https://www.axios.com/trump-losing-patience-with-va......
    Scoop: Trump finally losing patience with VA Sec. Shulkin. Shulkin (L) at a cabinet meeting last week. Photo: Michael Reynolds-Pool/Getty Images. It took a few weeks to land on his radar, but President Trump now views Veterans Affairs Sec. David Shulkin as a major problem. Trump has been telling associates he doesn't know what's …
     
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    https://www.atr.org/thanks-trump-median-household-income-highest-level-ever

    Real median household income has grown by $4,144 or 6.8 percent since President Trump took office, according to an op-ed published in the Wall Street Journal.
    This data is based on a report released by Sentier Research analyzing the Census Bureau’s monthly Current Population Survey.
    As noted in the op-ed, authored by Stephen Moore, real median household income is at an all-time high:
    “Real median household income—the amount earned by those in the very middle—hit $65,084 (in 2019 dollars) for the 12 months ending in July. That’s the highest level ever and a gain of $4,144, or 6.8%, since Mr. Trump took office. By comparison, during 7½ years under President Obama—starting from the end of the recession in June 2009 through January 2017—the median household income rose by only about $1,000.”
    The below chart highlights the strong Trump wage growth.


    Economy & Politics: Income Gap Grows under Trump, Obama — but ...
    www.nationalreview.com/2019/10/income-gap-growth...
    Indeed, in a bit more than half of his term, Trump’s $5,003 mountain of growth in median household income is 346 percent higher than Bush-Obama’s $1,444 molehill of marginal middle-class earnings. https://www.nationalreview.com/.../income-gap-growth.../
     
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    It was their fault.
    They never learned to distrust boasters. :(
     
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    While the Left condemned Trump for spending so much on the military, the bias news left this information out.

    What the massive US military budget pays for
    www.click2houston.com/news/politics/what-the...
    When President Donald Trump signed the $1.3 trillion omnibus spending bill on Friday, he approved what his administration calls the largest military budget in US history, $700 billion.( to fix the mess Obama left the military in.
    Grounded: Nearly two-thirds of US Navy’s strike fighters ...
    https://www.defensenews.com/.../02/06/grounded-nearly-two...
    Overhauls — "availabilities" in Navy parlance — are being canceled or deferred, and when ships do come in they need longer to refit. Every carrier overall for at least three years has run long, and some submarines are out of service for prolonged periods, as much as four years or more. One submarine, the Boise, has lost its diving certification …

    70% of Marine Aircraft Can't Fly - …
    https://www.independentsentinel.com/70-of-marine-aircraft...
    Out of 276 F/A-18 Hornet strike fighters in the Marine Corps inventory, only about 30% are ready to fly, according to statistics provided by the Corps. Similarly, only 42 of 147 heavy-lift CH-53E Super Stallion helicopters are airworthy.
     
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    The Recession didn't end in June 2009 .. not even close.
     
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    There are more jobs than people out of work, something the American economy has never experienced before
    https://www.cnbc.com/.../there-are-more-jobs-than-people...

    Pay gains under Trump best since the Great Recession
    www.cnbc.com › 2018/01/31 › pay-gains-under-trump...

    Jan 31, 2018 - Workers looking for fatter paychecks had their best year in 2017 since before the financial crisis, according to a government report Wednesday.

    Overlooked on economy? Rising paychecks for blue-collar ...
    www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/08/14/blue...
    Aug 14, 2019 • Blue-collar path to solid paycheck. And as blue-collar workers have seen their wallets thicken, highly educated white-collar workers’ wages have grown more modestly.

    • Pay
    gains under Trump best since the Great Recession
    www.cnbc.com/2018/01/31/pay-gains-under-trumps...
    Jan 31, 2018 • President Donald Trump's first full year in office saw gains that easily outdistanced any year for his predecessor, Barack Obama, whose best showing was the 2.2 percent increases in 2016 and 2014. Six of Obama's eight years in office saw gains of 2 percent or less.
     
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    OK, let's try this again. What do you think Trump did? I'm asking you to tell me what you, personally believe Trump did for America and why you hold whatever that is in high esteem. Further, how does any of <whatever that is in your mind> eclipse all the destruction and chaos he causes everywhere?
     
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    America needed to be run into the ground? To lose more people to a terrible plague which killed more of our people than all our wars this century?
     
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    Praising trump for nihilism.
     
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    Well if you can't see what he did, then your totally blind. That isn't half of it either. What is all this destruction and chaos he did everywhere? Yes he made a big mistake of trying to get people to put pressure on Congress to hold up making Biden President till an investigation could be had in what he felt was voter fraud. He should have known that could get out of hand. But Trump did a lot of good for a lot of people. Other things like this

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    When China threatened to with hold vital ingredient used in many of our most vital medicines if Trump didn't back down on his trade demands Trump did this. Kodak is now making some of those ingredients.

    In a deal aimed at reducing U.S. reliance on China, the federal government announced Tuesday that it plans to give Eastman Kodak a $765 million loan to start producing the chemical ingredients needed to make pharmaceuticals.
    The company plans to establish a new division, Kodak Pharmaceuticals, that will focus on the building blocks used to produce generic drugs, according to a joint statement from Kodak and the lending agency, the U.S. International Development Finance Corporation, or DFC.
    The planned investment, reported earlier by the Wall Street Journal, will create about 350 jobs at Kodak’s home base in Rochester, N.Y., and in St. Paul, Minn., the company said.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/07/28/kodak-produce-pharmaceutical-ingredients/
     
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    1) The Total Military spend is over 1.2 Trillion - 700 is just the Defense portion
    2) Fighter Aircraft are maintenance intensive .. 50% would be pretty good - given that we have 10 times more aircraft than we need .. 30% - 30% is 3 times higher than what we need.
    3) Obama increased Total Military Spending .. money that could have been much better spent elsewhere .. need to pare down this massive welfare program.
     
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    1. www.msn.com › en-us › newsChina's nuclear and military buildup raises the risk of ...
      It was already a dangerous race: China versus the United States, each pouring hundreds of billions of dollars into missiles, submarines, warplanes and ships, vying to dominate the Indo-Pacific.

    2. www.military.com › daily-news › 2021/11/01Pentagon Rattled by Chinese Military Push on Multiple Fronts
      But Milley and others say Beijing is a bigger long-term worry because its economic strength far exceeds that of Russia, and it is rapidly pouring resources into military modernization.


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    You want to blame Trump for all the people who died from this terrible virus now? Get real
     
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    I'm not blind. I'm not illiterate and I have wi-fi access so I can look up all that stuff your' spamming the forum with but that doesn't answer my question.

    I am not asking what a reporter or interviewer or article says about him. I'm asking, YOU, personally to tell me what positive strides he made and their obvious impact upon you. What are some of the things that lead you to your opinion of him?

    Trump creates chaos and destruction wherever he goes. It's easier to ask when he does NOT.
     
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    Do you hold Biden accountable for what he does or does not do while acting within his role as POTUS?
     
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    You have Russia acting like they want to invade Ukraine with hundreds thousands of soldiers and weapons on their border. You have China trying to keep us out of the S. China Sea and threatening to invade Taiwan and have a peace treaty between Russia and China to come to each other's aid if attacked. We should be scaling back on our military? We have pledged to protect Taiwan. That means we could be fighting a war far from our shores and China building twice the nuclear subs we can, just waiting on our carriers to come over.
     
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    and Americans ( the world ) needed to be told the Virus was a a hoax............thus endangering an entire population to a serious pandemic by providing crazy statements .........that folks believed. .....including the insanity of injecting a disinfectant into the body. What kind of witch craft is that??
    ......all the while dumbing down the population even further..........as it began to reject proper medical advice / information from professionals. ....... having bought into his insane /irresponsible statements.
     
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