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WATCH LIVE: Public Impeachment Hearings

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by MrTLegal, Nov 13, 2019.

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  1. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My friend,

    in a single day, the tables have been turned. This is yesterday’s news, another one of Democrat stunts. The hearings will wind down soon and the Democrats will move on to invent another Trump’s crime to investigate.

    I know it, you know it. The show must go on, right until Trump wins reelection.

    Time to practice to scream :D
     
    Dutch, Nov 14, 2019
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    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Funny, I saw her say it live this AM... do you DVR everything??
     
    Egoboy, Nov 14, 2019
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  3. TurnerAshby

    TurnerAshby Well-Known Member

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    i agree Trump kinda did this in a hamfisted way but from my understanding the president and Sec. of State are given pretty large leeway as far as foreign aid. The relevant acts are foreign assistance act of 1961 and arms control act
     
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    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    LOL... they're required to cooperate in OUR corruption investigations, not be told what they need to investigate...
     
    Egoboy, Nov 14, 2019
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    i think the treaty says even its a non crime... it's on congress. gov if anybody wants to link it
     
    TurnerAshby, Nov 14, 2019
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    Exactly.

    The POTUS would have no reason to bribe Ukraine if he wanted an investigation into Burisma or the 2016 election.

    All he'd have to do is ask by whatever means are in the treaty.
     
    vman12, Nov 14, 2019
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    "
    The scope of the Treaty includes not only criminal
    offenses, but also proceedings related to criminal matters,
    which may be civil or administrative in nature.
    Article 1(3) states that assistance shall be provided
    without regard to whether the conduct involved would constitute
    an offense under the laws of the Requested State."

    https://www.congress.gov/treaty-document/106th-congress/16/document-text
     
    TurnerAshby, Nov 14, 2019
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Good, since US citizens are on the board of the foreign company in question, and the 2016 election interference is our corruption investigation as well.
     
    vman12, Nov 14, 2019
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    Good....Another question.We established that the POTUS sets the foreign policy. What if some unelected officials try to conduct their own foreign policy so to speak, should they be prosecuted for their misconduct?
     
    Silver Surfer, Nov 14, 2019
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    To at least TRY to look intellectually honest?
     
    TOG 6, Nov 14, 2019
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  11. Egoboy

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    Case by case, but I wouldn't disagree with that on its face..

    I assume you aren't talking about Rudy here, but it sure could be.. and Rudy is under criminal investigation...
     
    Egoboy, Nov 14, 2019
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why... the swamp, of course. They’ been making foreign policy for so long, rarely consulting with the President, it has come as a real shock that Trump intends on making foreign policy himself! :D
     
    Dutch, Nov 14, 2019
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    No you self-servingly projected a motive which has no basis and your last sentence makes no sense. The President has a fiduciary responsibility to protect taxpayer dollars and as Kent testified Ukraine was at the top of the list for government corruption and Trump had been warned about it. Kudos to him for insuring our money would not fall into corrupt hands in a corrupt government.
     
    Bluesguy, Nov 14, 2019
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    In a significant revision to his testimony nearly three weeks ago before House impeachment investigators, the U.S. ambassador to the European Union, Gordon Sondland, now says he told a Ukrainian official that security assistance to the country would be likely to resume only if the authorities in Kyiv opened investigations requested by President Trump that could be damaging to former vice president Joe Biden.

    In a “supplemental declaration” provided to the House impeachment inquiry Monday, Sondland wrote, “I now recall speaking individually” with a Ukrainian official and in that conversation saying “that resumption of U.S. aid would likely not occur until Ukraine provided the public anti-corruption statement that we had been discussing for weeks."
     
    ronv, Nov 14, 2019
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    AKA, Trump. Do you understand how bills work?
     
    Hoosier8, Nov 14, 2019
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    Thanks for proving you have nothing to say.
     
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    first paragraph = opinion of the author
    second paragraph = actual quote

    probably didn't think anyone would notice didja ?
     
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    I guess sanctions placement on Russia, Iran, Cuba, etc. were extortion
     
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    And do you not concede that an investigation into Burisma "could be damaging to former VP Joe Biden"?

    I'm sure that's where Trumpie was heading, even if you don't claim that...
     
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    Why should Biden be immune from the consequences of his actions?

     
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    That's not the point of my post... True or False, is it possible an announcement of an investigation into Burisma "could be damaging to former VP Joe Biden"...
     
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    Irrelevant.
     
    Thought Criminal, Nov 14, 2019
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    Why is it irrelevant?
     
    Bush Lawyer, Nov 14, 2019
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    Does he have special immunity?
     
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    True or False, is it possible an announcement of an investigation into Burisma "could be damaging to former VP Joe Biden?"
     
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