Well it's been fun guys. I'm off the Trump train.

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by RiseAgainst, Sep 14, 2017.

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    It's already been on the table. You think squatters have Swiss bankers to reroute $200 bucks a month @ 15 dollars a pop? :roflol:
     
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    I don't think Chuckie Cheese and Nancy Pelooney are moderates. Trump is using them. Mark it. :grin:
     
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    Trump supports a deal for the DACA folks with more border security, but no funding for the wall.

    :)
     
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    My reaction is that nobody gets everything they want from a president because we are 330 million people with 330 million points of view.

    I voted for Trump, for example, knowing there was an item in his platform that I completely disagreed with.

    There is only one way you are going to get everything you want from a president, and that is if you run for president and if you get elected. Otherwise, you just have to look at our choices and make the best choice you can, even if you don't agree with everything.

    My suggestion is that you wait for the next election, and, if Trump runs again, look at the total body of his first four years. Look at his opponent too, and make a choice. Realistically, I think this is the best we can do.

    I actually support the DACA thing. Immigration law is the purview of Congress, and what Trump is doing is forcing Congress to get off its dead ass and do something.
     
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    You were told last year he would do this.
     
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    However, that is what he said.
     
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    As I keep saying, I don't know what is going to happen next

    But if trump gives illegal aliens amnesty without getting anything in return I think his presidency is finished

    That will be very difficult for him to explain to the base
     
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    On this matter, the Trump base does not count.

    The Dems are not going to allow impeachment of the goose that gives.
     
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    I hope trump is not foolish enough to listen to liberals because they will give him bad advice
     
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    He has not done anything yet
     
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    Remember, anything that gets to his desk for signing has to get through a Republican House and a Republican Senate. And, he can veto a bill and force Congress to override him (meaning Republicans would have to override him).

    So I'm not too terribly worried. Trump can let Congress know he won't sign a DACA bill without giving something he wants in return. So he's in a strong position. And if Congress can't send him a bill, then his executive order rescinding Obama's executive order goes into effect.
     
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    I agree that on DACA trump is dealing from a strong position

    If he throws that advantage away and gets nothing in return he will lose the respect of most trump voters

    And I can't tell from his statements if he understands that or not

    I hope he does
     
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    Believe me, he's that stupid.

    He's so incredibly stupid that he probably thinks he's doing himself a favor by going along with democrats.

    He's had every chance in the world to do what he said he would do, yet hasn't yet built a single mile of the wall. These things are not built overnight, and would require more than four years. Yet he's done nothing to build an inch of it.

    He really is the most incompetent guy to ever disgrace the white house since I have been alive, which is saying a lot.
     
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    I hope he does too. Kinda hard imagining Trump giving something for nothing. We'll see, though.
     
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    Trump has had no funding from congress to build the wall so I don't hold that against him

    So ignoring your obvious kneejerk criticism of him I will say That the only card trump holds are the "dreamers"

    If he does not play that care wisely he will lose the entire game and his presidency is over
     
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    Been saving this:

    (Writen 11/6/16)



    I Didn't do it!

    I predict that whomever is elected POTUS this cycle, will Preside over what I had thought 8 years ago, & reaffirmed 4 years ago, will be the most turbulent time, domestically, in terms of not only racial issues, but Socioeconomic as well.

    The reasons for this belief I have stated ad nauseam here, & throughout the inter webs for roughly a decade, so, to save you the reader, & myself nausea I'll refrain from going into them.

    It is my hope, that as I have witnessed over the past 20 years, the drumbeat of Independents, along with supporters of other political ideologies, will help to usher in & design a pathway for more parties to have a viable place in the Litter Box that is currently the American Political Arena.

    Change can only be realized, if you change.

    So, to my fellow voters here in the US who, either for the first time, or as a repeat performance, have chosen not to be a part of the problem, remember, YOU didn't do it, when the whole crap-house goes up in flames.

    Hope & Change aren't planks in a political platform. They are realities sorely needed in the American Political Process.
     
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    At this point all we can do is call the white house and hope for the best
     
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    Agreed. I hope that doesn't happen, but at this point, I just don't know. We shall see...
     
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    And from this morning's news NK has sent another missile over Japan. Now what?? Weird stuff going on - over there in the good ol' US of A and in this madhouse too.
     
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    better late then never, I jumped off the Trump train a few months before the election
     
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    his mistake was attacking children brought here by no fault of their own, he could of let the courts decide, now this is on him as he jumped the gun and made this about him
     
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    It was a genuine coup up until a month in.
    Bush Sr doesn't hide in a hospital with his wife, as Trump is being sworn in, if it wasn't.

    The only thing I can think of is some backroom deal guaranteeing no more new UN moves against Israel if Trump's Jews stopped the attack and made him play ball.

    What do you bet as long as Trump holds office Israel doesn't come up in the UN.
    And as soon as the globalists get a stooge back in play, the attack will proceed and the Israelis will realize they're retarded.
    They blew their one chance to be in good favor with the rising tide of nationalism.
     
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    holding these children hostage wont work, most Americans do not support deporting these children brought here of no fault of their own, they have lived here all their lives and know no other country, in fact some are even in the military
     
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    He hasn't gotten any funding because you don't get stuff from congress because you made a campaign promise. You get funding through a number of ways, but not because you promised the American people you would do something while on the campaign circuit.

    He could have done what Obama did and simply say "I ain't signing dick unless there's a bajillion trillion dollars to fund the wall". I guarantee you, he would have that bajillion trillion if he had done that, but he hasn't. Nor will he.
     

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