What if the border wall isn’t effective?

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  1. JakeStarkey

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    Not in the slightest, garyd.
     
  2. garyd

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    If they are hear illegally you have no more right to stay in this country than they'd have a right to camp out uninvited in your living room.
     
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    They do not always know. How hard is it to still an SS?
     
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    What?
     
  5. JakeStarkey

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    That is a small minority of opinion. They will stay.
     
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    Doesn't change the fact that they should not.
     
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    You obviously cannot see your own colossal ignorance and lack of objectivity concerning a wall.
     
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  8. JakeStarkey

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    garyd's opinion is incorrect, and he should be careful personally attacking others.
     
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    A wall by itself wouldn't be effective. We need to implement all available technology plus more personnel on the ground. In addition to that, we have to shut off the magnets, then address why those magnets exist.
     
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    I am honest about it. I am talking about shooting a fleeing criminal. Not somebody coming after him with a gun or weapon, but a potential drug smuggler.
     
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    Good. Have your presidential candidate run on a platform that we will shoot children running away.

    Please
     
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    Huh?
     
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    Certainly explains a lot.
     
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    Not until we have successful border security

    Till then no deal on the dreamers

    And oh btw part of the deal must include punishment for the adults who brought the dreamers here

    No green cards for them

    They must accept deportation and sign an agreement never to return
     
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    You seem to hate private compnies more than the illegal aliens who are the cause of the problem to begin with

    Or maybe hate too stong a word

    Better to say you expect perfection from private US employers while placing no blame on illegals who are the source of the problem
     
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    Then there will be no money for a wall, Mac-7. There will never be a wall.

    Put the Dreamers and their parents in the same deal as money for border security.
     
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    ^^^^ Such a silly, sill statement.

    Companies that knowingly engage in criminal activity in hiring illegal aliens somehow do not encompass expecting perfection from them. Just have them follow the law.
     
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    Why is that a platform, why will it even be mentioned by any candidate? You vote for a war, you don't vote for killing kids, but that is a result of war, you know when you send troops and /or bomb kids are being killed. This is what I don't get about this country and political disagreement anymore. One party wants to build a wall to keep out illegal murdering aliens. The other party wants to call a secure border an ok to shoot kids.

    Lets not talk about a compromise- lets demonize the other side.
     
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    :roflol: Mexifornia's legislation criminalizes employers reporting suspected illegals. Mexifornia's legislation provides health coverage to illegals exploited by employers. I have concluded that liberals wouldn't know the truth if it bit them on the ass. Kamala promotes sanctuary policies on a national scale, and so does Beto O'Rourke. They might FINE corporations to offset states expenditures on illegal immigration "care" ... but they won't do anything meaningful to stop illegals from taking American jobs. They go so far as to fund legal defense against deportation. Obviously illegals workers who are displaced become "wards" of the state, or resort to criminal enterprise. Democrats have become synonymous with oxyMORONS.
     
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    No, that is the wrong tack. If jobs were not available to them they would not come, and they would leave. And it is not just private companies but private persons who hire illegals to do lawn and housework, and childrearing nanny type stuff. Plus those temp type maid and janitorial companies that come in after close of business. Families love the idea of homecare and not SS taxes, or withholding and just pay min. Give a woman 400 a week and your house is clean, supper is cooked and your child is minded for 9 hours a day. When if you go to a legit childcare facility it will cost you 200 just to mind one kid. There is probably 50,000 of them just in Orange county!
     
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    :roflol: No, PI, California does not, and if it did it would be illegal. That's one lie down.

    A border wall from sea to shining sea would not be effective. That is true.

    Observing is fun to read, but, in fact, Orange County, CA is one of the most conservative places in the US, so if (which I doubt) they all have domestics, then the rest of the country is doing the same.
     
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    Nothinh you just posted is true ... hence my observation about the truth biting liberals on the ass. Calexit was a success, albeit an unofficially recognized sessesion. Jerry Brown & Kamala Harris have enabled Mexico's annexation of California. California tax revenues now flow directly to Mexico's occupying populace.
     
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    yeah, of course the conservative base just as the liberal base are just as much at fault in this. A woman's time whether she is liberal or conservative is extremely valuable. I am talking professional women making 75,000, or more a year. she works 10-11 hours a day with commuting and does not have the time to keep a house the way she would like or give the kid the time the child needs. She rather forgo the $3000 child care credit to get a clean home and her child the one on one care. They equally turn a blind eye to breaking the law and not paying overtime, ss and withholding. they get transfered the illegal gets no unemployment and when old gets no SS. whether they are repubs or dems don't matter. I want them arrested.
     
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    Why hide it? Just be honest. Shoot to kill orders on the border. Be proud of it. Lead with it.


    Please
     
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    What?
     

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