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What is the right number of Gun deaths for the US?

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Vegas giants, Feb 2, 2016.

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  1. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

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    Actually Sweetie - the real reduction comes not with firearm reduction itself but with securement of those firearms. Which makes sense because a significant proportion of those deaths are spur of the moment - suicides and homicides.

    We have more guns in Australia now than we did in 1996. Admittedly we do not have semi-automatics and high speed rapid fire weapons (and most of us cannot see a REASON to even THINK about owning one of those - but then we do not have a strong belief system that there will be government tyranny/zombie apocalypse.) But we DO have more firearms per capita than then. So why has our rates of mass murder, firearm homicides, firearm related suicides etc risen? Because we are legislated to keep firearms secured when not in use
     
    Bowerbird, Feb 3, 2016
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  2. Vegas giants

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    I disagree. And I will continue to work for reasonable gun control
     
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  3. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

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    Actually it does - firstly there is the issue of lethality of the method

    https://www.mja.com.au/journal/2010...tes-and-methods-suicide-between-1988-and-2007

    http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp0805923
     
    Bowerbird, Feb 3, 2016
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  4. Xenamnes

    Xenamnes Banned

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    Explain not only why you believe that filling out a form, or taking a class will discourage both suicide and felony murder, but also how this would occur.
     
    Xenamnes, Feb 3, 2016
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  5. Bowerbird

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    :roflol::roflol::roflol:

    Not enough need more

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    Bowerbird, Feb 3, 2016
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  6. Vegas giants

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    Universal background checks
    Mandatory training on guns
    Doctors can have the right to own guns suspended
    Mandatory gun safes
    Universal registration
     
    Vegas giants, Feb 3, 2016
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  7. QLB

    QLB Well-Known Member

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    Civil war. Then you're on the menu.
     
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  8. Vegas giants

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    Molon Labe. LOL
     
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  9. Dissily Mordentroge

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    What is the right number of gun deaths for the US?
    What's the membership count for the N.R.A.?
     
    Dissily Mordentroge, Feb 3, 2016
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  10. Bowerbird

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    And what is the likelihood of civil war?
     
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    QLB Well-Known Member

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    Where I live who is going to protect you? You? Highly doubtful. You become a soft target and an example.

    - - - Updated - - -

    If the current climate continues virtually a certainty.
     
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    I dis-agree, what's the number of anti-gun nutters, now we're talkin :wink:
     
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  13. Vegas giants

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    Protect me? Ten year active duty and you think I am helpless? I would love that. Bring your own body bag
     
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    Bowerbird, Feb 3, 2016
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    Total bluster. You'd never see it coming.
     
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  16. Bowerbird

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    Why? What are the indications? Remembering that if America goes into civil meltdown it will affect a lot of other countries
     
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    Interesting.
    In the US, ince 1993, gun-related violet crimes - including murder - have fallen by more than 50%, we have millions upon millions of guns more now than we did then, and we have no such silly laws.
    How do you explain that?
     
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  18. QLB

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    A lot of the conditions that led to the Spanish Civil War are in play in the US. A remarkable analogy.
     
    QLB, Feb 3, 2016
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  19. Vegas giants

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    Hilarious. Lets compare DD214's. What outfit did you learn these deadly skills in? LOL
     
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  20. QLB

    QLB Well-Known Member

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    It's not a movie. If you know anything at all you know this. Isolated, alone and with little support you "should" know what happens. In rural America it would be laughable.
     
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  21. Vegas giants

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    Ok you have no training. Well you decided to make it personal. Sorry if that made you look bad
     
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  22. QLB

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    LMAO. Totally funny. Next.
     
    QLB, Feb 3, 2016
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    Maccabee, Feb 3, 2016
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  24. Vegas giants

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    Were you just too afraid to join? LOL
     
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  25. QLB

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    Keep it up kid. Did you get this from playing video games? I don't believe a word of what you say. Not a bit. Another internet Rambo/Kung Fu. You have no practical knowledge and it shows. No training. No insight. No nothing. Otherwise you'd be able to converse with those of who can. You can't.
     
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