What makes a false prophet?

Discussion in 'Religion & Philosophy' started by Bisquit, Nov 23, 2020.

  1. Spooky

    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2013
    Messages:
    31,814
    Likes Received:
    13,377
    Trophy Points:
    113
    That's exactly what it means.

    I am not here to convince you of anything I will just say I hope you are correct for your sake because if you are wrong, well I wouldn't want to be you.
     
  2. JET3534

    JET3534 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2014
    Messages:
    13,366
    Likes Received:
    11,538
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Pascal's wager can be applied to any religion. What if you are wrong about Buddhism?
     
    Buri likes this.
  3. Bisquit

    Bisquit Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2014
    Messages:
    890
    Likes Received:
    361
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Only a fool wouldn't see how Trump has divided the country, and instigated a massive increase in voter turnout to vote him out of office.
     
  4. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2017
    Messages:
    20,756
    Likes Received:
    9,034
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Democrats were dividing the country before his first day in office by enacting a bought and paid for insurance policy to have him removed. The massive increase in voter turnout you talk about came after election day where Trump was ahead by over 700,000 votes. He is the victim of the second insurance policy.....voter fraud. I pray we can get this fraud sorted out before more elections or America is through!
     
  5. Cougarbear

    Cougarbear Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2019
    Messages:
    2,450
    Likes Received:
    1,146
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Typical Anti-Zionist propaganda. No, this is all rubbish. When and where did Jews kill 50,000 Germans? The Germans took away their guns. Your anti Jewish rubbish isn't worth taking more time on this.
     
  6. Cougarbear

    Cougarbear Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2019
    Messages:
    2,450
    Likes Received:
    1,146
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Is it or is it not in the Bible? And, isn't the Bible the word of God and without mistakes? As a Christian, you must agree with this. Yet, you pose none of your supposedly highly intelligent studies on this particular part of the Bible. Your response is one of a double minded person. No wonder you reject the parts of the Bible that you can't agree with.
     
  7. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2009
    Messages:
    23,726
    Likes Received:
    1,790
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You really should learn the difference between propaganda and historical fact.
    Oh how you wish!
    Poland
    YOu think the germans took away their guns before they invaded eh....brilliant!
    Good idea, bail before your titanic is completely under water!
     
  8. Cougarbear

    Cougarbear Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2019
    Messages:
    2,450
    Likes Received:
    1,146
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    And, exactly when in Poland did Jews kill 50,000 Germans?
     
  9. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2009
    Messages:
    23,726
    Likes Received:
    1,790
    Trophy Points:
    113
    110,000 German civilians were held as forced labor in Kaliningrad Oblast where 50,000 were dead or missing.
     
  10. Cougarbear

    Cougarbear Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2019
    Messages:
    2,450
    Likes Received:
    1,146
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_and_expulsion_of_Germans_(1944–1950)
    The Federal Statistical Office of Germany estimated that in mid-1945, 250,000 Germans remained in the northern part of the former East Prussia, which became the Kaliningrad Oblast. They also estimated that more than 100,000 people surviving the Soviet occupation were evacuated to Germany beginning in 1947.[162]

    German civilians were held as "reparations labor" by the USSR. Data from the Russian archives, newly published in 2001 and based on an actual enumeration, put the number of German civilians deported from Poland to the USSR in early 1945 for reparations labor at 155,262; 37% (57,586) died in the USSR.[123] The West German Red Cross had estimated in 1964 that 233,000 German civilians were deported to the USSR from Poland as forced laborers and that 45% (105,000) were dead or missing.[163] The West German Red Cross estimated at that time that 110,000 German civilians were held as forced labor in the Kaliningrad Oblast, where 50,000 were dead or missing.[163] The Soviets deported 7,448 Poles of the Armia Krajowa from Poland. Soviet records indicated that 506 Poles died in captivity.[123] Tomasz Kamusella maintains that in early 1945, 165,000 Germans were transported to the Soviet Union.[164] According to Gerhardt Reichling, an official in the German Finance office, 520,000 German civilians from the Oder–Neisse region were conscripted for forced labor by both the USSR and Poland; he maintains that 206,000 perished.[165]

    So, it was actually the Soviet Union that did this, not Jews. Stalin murdered millions of Jews in much the same manner and through mass starvation in the Ukraine. And, this happened during and after WW2. The Soviet Union did this in many other nations in the Baltic area as well. So, please explain how you got the misinformation attacking Jews?
     
  11. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2009
    Messages:
    23,726
    Likes Received:
    1,790
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Oh so you think poland and the soviet union had no jews

    Brito-Zionists Starve Germans

    [The Politics of Hunger: Allied Blockade of Germany, 1915-1919 • By C. Paul Vincent • Ohio University Press (1985) • 185 pages.

    The declaration was contained in a letter dated 2 November 1917 from the United Kingdom's Foreign Secretary Arthur Balfour to Lord Rothschild, a leader of the British Jewish community, for transmission to the Zionist Federation of Great Britain and Ireland. The text of the declaration was published in the press on 9 November 1917. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration

    The War Orders given by the Admiralty on 26 August [1914] were clear enough. All food consigned to Germany through neutral ports was to be captured and all food consigned to Rotterdam was to be presumed consigned to Germany. … The British were determined on the [Genocidal] starvation policy, whether or not it was lawful.6

    "Wilson ensured that every loophole left open by the Allies for the potential reprovisioning of Germany was closed … even the importation of foodstuffs by neutrals was prevented until December 1917." Rations in Germany were reduced to about one thousand calories a day. By 1918, the [German] mortality rate among civilians was 38 percent higher than in 1913; tuberculosis was rampant, and, among children, so were rickets and edema. Yet, when the Germans surrendered in November 1918, the armistice terms, drawn up by Clemenceau, Foch, and Pétain, included the continuation of the blockade until a final peace treaty was ratified.

    In December 1918, the National Health Office in Berlin calculated that 763,000 persons had died as a result of the [Atrocious Illegal] blockade by that time; the number added to this in the first months of 1919 is unknown.7 In some respects, the armistice saw the intensification of the suffering, since the German Baltic coast was now effectively blockaded and German fishing rights in the Baltic annulled.

    One of the most notable points in Vincent's account is how the perspective of "zoological" warfare, later associated with the Nazis, began to emerge from the maelstrom of ethnic hatred engendered by the war. In September 1918, one English journalist, in an article titled "The Huns of 1940," wrote hopefully of the tens of thousands of Germans now in the wombs of famished mothers who "are destined for a life of physical inferiority."8 The "famous founder of the Boy Scouts, Robert Baden-Powell, naively expressed his satisfaction that the German race is being ruined; though the birth rate, from the German point of view, may look satisfactory, the irreparable harm done is quite different and much more serious."

    Against the genocidal wish-fantasies of such thinkers and the heartless vindictiveness of Entente politicians should be set the anguished reports from Germany by British journalists and, especially, army officers, as well as by the members of Herbert Hoover's American Relief Commission. Again and again they stressed, besides the barbarism of the continued blockade, the danger that famine might well drive the Germans to Bolshevism. Hoover was soon persuaded of the urgent need to end the blockade, but wrangling among the Allies, particularly French insistence that the German gold stock could not be used to pay for food, since it was earmarked for reparations, prevented action.

    In early March 1919, General Herbert Plumer, commander of the British Army of Occupation, informed Prime Minister Lloyd George that his men were begging to be sent home; they could no longer stand the sight of "hordes of skinny and bloated [German] children pawing over the offal" from the British camps. Finally, the Americans and British overpowered French objections, and at the end of March, the first food shipments began arriving in Hamburg. But it was only in July, after the formal German signature to the Treaty of Versailles, that the Germans were permitted to import raw materials and export manufactured goods.

    Besides the direct effects of the British blockade, there are the possible indirect and much more damaging effects to consider. A German child who was ten years old in 1918, and who survived, was twenty-two in 1930. Vincent raises the question of whether the miseries and suffering from hunger in the early, formative years help account to some degree for the enthusiasm of German youth for Nazism later on. Drawing on a 1971 article by Peter Loewenberg, he argues in the affirmative.9 Loewenberg's work, however, is a specimen of psychohistory and his conclusions are explicitly founded on psychoanalytic doctrine. https://mises.org/library/blockade-and-genocidal-starvation-germany
     
    Last edited: Nov 30, 2020
  12. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2009
    Messages:
    23,726
    Likes Received:
    1,790
    Trophy Points:
    113
    A book from 1937 which revealed that Communist Jews were the commandants of 11 out of the 12 main Stalinist-era Gulags, or concentration camps, including the camp system directors Matvei Berman and Hershel Jehuda. Ultimately, some 14 million people would be detained in the 53 camps which operated from 1934 to 1953. According to official Soviet data, some 1,053,829 people died in the camps from various causes. The modern-day Russian industrial cities of the Arctic, such as Norilsk, Vorkuta, and Magadan, were originally Gulags. Contents Introduction to the 2011 edition by Francis Dupont ; Introduction to the 1999 Edition by Dr. E.R. Fields; About This Book; Foreword to the 1937 Edition; Preface to the 1937 Edition; Chapter One: The Jewish Terror Grips Russia; Chapter Two: The Origin of the Compulsion Workers; Chapter Three: The Cry for Redemption of the Exiles; Chapter Four: The Division of the Compulsion Workers; Chapter Five: The Construction of the Stalin White Sea Canal; Notes.

    upload_2020-11-30_20-23-43.png

    https://i2.wp.com/ostarapublications.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Jewish-Run-Concentration-Camps-in-the-Soviet-Union.jpg?fit=600,800&ssl=1


    LOL I can do this all day!
     
    Last edited: Nov 30, 2020

Share This Page