What sort of person is donald trump?

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  1. ARDY

    ARDY Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You do not feel this way
    But aside from policy issues
    He continually lies
    How often did he say he had PROOF that obAma was not a citizen, not born in Hawaii, had a forged birth certificate, was born in africa, is a muslim

    there has been lots of time for him to present his proof... he never did, but kept lying... lied that obama bugged trump tower. In and on and on, an endkess stream of lies

    And yeah all politicuans lie or spin the truth. And yeah obama said you could keep your dr. ... but the quantity of trump lies is endless and daily. Pretty much every tweet contains one or more lies.
     
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    ImNotOliver Well-Known Member

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    Keith Richards, of the Rolling Stones, tells of a story where Trump was trying to turn a Stones concert into a "Trump" event. When Richards confronted Trump, his three body guards came at Richards. However, Richards was soon backed by 30 members of his road crew. Trump was forced to slink away with his tail between his legs like the dog that he is.
     
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    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    And for these same reasons, Canadians must like the US.
    Correct?
     
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    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    Nice anecdote.
    Like all other anecdotes, it proves nothing. Why don't you know this?
    And, aside form it proving nothing - can you prove you didn't invent the story yourself?
     
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    Correct.

    And it's the case.
     
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    I was equally disturbed on hearing stories of how Trump would intentionally short contractors out of their last payment after completion of work - knowing that the expense of going through the legalities was more than the payment and so they were unlikely to fight.

    Not much more needs to be said but, I will. Trump was a spoiled rich kid who has never grown up. He is an elitist who is an adherent of Eugenics ideology (biological determinism) - as was his father. He believes he is superior due to his genes and that hierarchy in society is the natural outcropping of the gene "survival of the fittest" such and that tampering with this hierarchy (the power of the elite) would go against the "natural order". The poor are to be kept in their place and the elite in theirs .

    Trump is one of those people who is always "right". As such there is little for him to learn - if you already know everything - who can teach you anything. This is why Trump does not listen to any of his adviser's - unless of course they agree with him on everything.

    This is also why Trump has so much love for authoritarian dictators - Trump would like to have that power - and this power helps to keep the raging masses in check. Trump loves increasing Gov't power - especially in relation to police powers - individual liberty be damned.

    Trump's gift is that he understands the base instinct of the raging masses. It matters not whether what he says is true - so long as it panders to this base instinct.
     
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    Do I have to teach you how to use Google? Type in Keith Richards or the Rolling Stones and Trump and you'll get a list of sites with stories of the encounters between the Stones and Trump. On YouTube there are videos of the Stones telling how crappy of a person they think Trump is.

    Mick Jagger was even laughing about Trump using the song, You Can't Always Get What You Want, during his campaign events. The song is about scoring drugs.
     
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    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    Ah. You made you story up. Just as I thought.

    And, of course, the point remains:
    Like all other anecdotes, your made-up story proves nothing. Why don't you know this?
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Effective. Providing healthcare for tens of millions of AMERICANs who didn't have it.

    Gotta luv this "gutted the military" bullshit. Seems republicans can't remember when they were deficit hawks - Sequestration ring a bell? thought not.

    Yeah trashing race relations because rrwfers crawled out from under their rocks with republican blessing and started spewing their slime.

    I find it hilarious that your fearless leader is the biggest whiner the presidency has ever known, yet you think dems are whiners.
    Poor white right - oppressed, under attack from swarms of "colored illegals", discriminated against because of AA and all them "minorities taking ours for free " programs.

    Thanks for expressing your range of bumperstickers. most informative.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lack of critical thinking skills almost always includes pathetic denial of facts that are at a person's fingertips.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh, what do you think the "underlying logic" of the charges are? What areas do you disagree with?

    The facts are very clear, the evidence is rock solid. So I'd be really interested in the basis of your dismissal.

    Shall I wait?
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Just betwixt you and me, Trump continues to look like the corrupt con man he is.

    Your perspective of democrats stiffing the poor is ripe. Nothing like calling white black. Seems to be a necessary skill for bumperstcker partisans.
     
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    Speaking of a lack of critical thinking skills...
    Why don't you understand that when someone makes a claim, the onus is on him to back it up?
    Why don't you understand that until said claim is supported, there are no facts to deny?
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It seems you are projecting the malleability of your personal values and ethics onto others.
    There has NEVER been a time where "character" doesn't matter to me.

    Trump doesn't lack character, its just that it is a corrupt, conceited, lying, spoiled, bullying, ignorant one.

    I can certainly understand how he might be considered a champion of "little man". After all he certainly is a puny human by most measures.
     
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    Oh, I'm sure. No. Really.
     
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    He certainly does have his personal foibles - harmless for the most part, and no reason for extreme hatred.

    I am more interested in policy than personality, although I realize that personality is not irrelevant, especially in the presidents role as Head of State.
     
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    I'm sorry - are you still unable to find proof of your claim?
    If not, then rather than try to cover your inability to support your claim with talk about me, you should keep looking.
    Until then, we're left with your meaningless anecdote that you cannot prove to be true - that is, nothing worth discussing.
     
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    he said with a straight face.
     
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    So.. you don't know why you don't understand those things.
    Fair enough.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh I know the precise reasons why i don't understand the things you do. And I'm damn glad for all of them.
     
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    ARDY Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If a major candidate for president continually and publicly accused you of being a pedophile... would you consider that to be a charming personal foible?
     
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    Really? Do tell.
    What are the "precise reasons" you do not understand that...
    ... when someone makes a claim, the onus is on him to back it up?
    ... until said claim is supported, there are no facts to deny.?
     
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    ImNotOliver Well-Known Member

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    I've heard that there was this poster. He claimed to be a gun fanatic. Turns out he couldn't hit the broadside of a barn at twenty paces, with or without a scope. And the kick left his shoulder and the side of his face just as bruised as his ego.
     
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    LOL, no, but then, I never said his foibles were "charming".
    I assume you are referring to Trump's practice of firing back at anyone who takes pot-shots at him. It has always been said that a politician has to have thick skin. Trump is not an experienced politician, and he is not thick-skinned when it comes to personal attacks.
     
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    Yes, but this meaningless, alt-reality ad hom attack on said poster is just another manifestation of your intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from yourself, and only further demonstrates your inability to support the claims you make.

    Edit: Especially when you know your claim is false.
     
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