What's so great about Diversity?

If its our weakness, when why have we spend 200 years importing people here, - even former Nazi scientists who ended up putting a man on the moon? We bring them in from all corners of the world, - scientists, doctors, athletes, musicians, construction workers, cotton-pickers, you name it and the result is what we have: the best country in the world.

 

Biased how?

In other words, please elaborate on what you are asserting as to how my perception is wrong due to bias. Do you think that the Middle Easterners or Blacks involved would have a different perception than I do?

I sincerely do not believe that they would. I did not say anything negative about any group, nor is my characterization a closely held secret. This was all pretty well known. I did say they had a fight one of us fight all of us mindset, but that was a point of pride for them. Again, it was well known. They would not disagree with that characterization.

The clash of cultures undeniably created conflict. To say otherwise is bereft of reality.

 

Finland and South Korea have also abandoned standardized testing....wtf you talking about.
Its just a flawed method, it has little to do with diversity, or how our majority population of 5th generation and later citizens are dumbing us down. Immigrants of all nationalities 1st and 2nd generation test better then most Americanized citizens anyway.

 

So you think that we have the best country in the world because we got people who are the most different from each other and had the least in common?

The population of Nazi scientists has essentially dried up so I'm not sure how you figure Von Braun's pro Nazi sympathies helped put a man on the moon. It was based more on his scientific acumen.

 

No, I didn't say it was the only reason, but sure, - it has contributed to it.

I didn't say it was due to his pro Nazi sympathies. That idea came from you, not me.

 

Then what's the diversity aspect? Minus the Nazi bit, he's just another scientist, although an exceptionally gifted one.

 

He was German, different culture, which adds to diversity, but its not about one man. I said "we bring them in from all corners of the world, - scientists, doctors, athletes, musicians, construction workers, cotton-pickers, you name it"

 

Finland has a high school matriculation test
And South Korea has the CSAT.

 

And we have the SAT.

All 3 of us are moving away from standardized testing anyway.

 

If one white individual opines that "if you fought one Middle Eastern guy you fought them all, and the same thing applied to the Black kids. The white kids had no such unwritten pact," with no credible evidence to support his perspective, I accept it as his opinion, nothing more, nothing less.

Does you opinion support the separation of Americans by race in all aspects of private and public life, or do the plethora of examples of interracial amicability suggest to you that the equality proclaimed in the Constitution is a meritorious aspiration that benefits the nation?

 

At no point have I argued for the "separation of Americans by race in all aspects of private and public life, or do the plethora of examples of interracial amicability suggest to you that the equality proclaimed in the Constitution is a meritorious aspiration that benefits the nation".

My god what a truly silly, ridiculous strawman argument. That pretty much ends this conversation. My point about clashing cultures causing conflict stands regardless.

I will leave you alone to pursue your quest to find people who want to engage in such nonsensical logical fallacies.

 

I did not say you did.

I asked you a question.

You could affirm your acceptance of the Constitutional in the matter if you concur with it.

I told you I accepted your opinion as such.

It does not discredit the concept of equality, nor the benefit of equality to the nation.

 

I can see his advantage as a scientist, but not as a German. How did his Germaness make the country better?

 

He is an example of how it benefits the nation to allow people from diverse backgrounds tp come here, but maybe you are not meant to get the point.

 

No it isn't. Not at all.

He was an exceptional scientist who worked on technology that the US was eager to exploit, not because he was German. His use to the US was ONLY because of those credentials, it had nothing to do with his "diverse" background.

Something something diverse doesn't add anything useful, or at least you've not been able to make that argument. So far your argument seems silly.

 

Whatever makes you happy, but it seems you just have a problem with the word, not what it stands for. The word it used to describe people like him, - people coming from different backgrounds bringing something to contribute to their new country. You can argue it has nothing to do with diversity, and everything to do with what they bring, and that is fine. Lets drop the word, and continue to bring in talent. Nothing changes, except that we'll just replace the offending word with something else.

Being offended by the word is silly, but as I said, let's use another word, - something less offensive to your delicate feelings. See, no one ever argued diversity is good just because it brings "something or anything, like different colored skin". US has been diverse from Day-1, with millions of determined people arriving to make a new home, and in process of doing that, improving the country.

You have been conditioned to think the word is evil, and anything associated to it must also be evil. That's the only reason you rave against it.

 

Isn't wonderful bringing in all of the Muslims so they can protest relentlessly in their hundreds of thousands at Western capitols calling for the extermination of Israel? It has been going on for weeks now in cities like London. When you import the third world, you import their culture. When you import enough of them to overwhelm the native population, your culture will be overthrown. The stronger culture always wins. The Christian west was once strong enough to resist Islam. The Secular west is like a lamb in the presence of lions.

All your happy talk is just that. Happy talk. Different ethnicities have different values. The clash of those values at a national level lead to violence. Diversity is not a strength, unity is. Every ethnicity needs a place they can call their own and that responds to their needs and wants. That is why Niger is for Nigerians, Japan is for the Japanese and China is for the Chinese. When Western elites remove that from every European country, they are sowing the seeds for their own replacement. The country they end up with will have the same values as the country that most of their population came from. In Europe, that will be Islam. In America, it will be just be chaos, brutal authoritarianism or dissolution. There are so many diametrically opposed ethnicities here that it is hard to call us a country any more. The only ethnicities that still revere the founding fathers are WASPs, the rest are indifferent at best and hostile at worst. All of the monuments revering our founders could end up coming down in our lifetimes.



On a side note, hockey has been trying really hard to get more blacks into the sport. That hit a bit of a snag this week when a black hockey player intentionally karate kicked an opposing player in the neck with his skate, cutting his neck and killing him. They are calling it an unfortunate accident but watching the video it was clearly intentional. This has never happened in hockey before. Not even once. What are the chances of the black hockey player being charged with manslaughter?

https://www.newsweek.com/matt-petgrave-adam-johnson-deadly-hit-reviewed-nhl-star-1839401

 

Sorry, but clearly you didn't get the point.

It was an accident, and you trying to make it about race says more about you than anything else. There are black NHL hockey players, just FYI.

Niger and Nigeria are two different countries.

And America is for the Apache, Comanche, Mohawk.oh wait.......Whether you like it or not, the US was built by immigrants, and their decedents.

 

A musical interlude

 

I think it is you who don't get the point. Diversity leads to divisiveness.

 

And here I thought the USA was built by slavers and White Supremacists.

 

It was built by WASPs. It was built for WASPs. It was a unified identity. It was successfully expanded to other Europeans and they assimilated. Assimilation ended in the 1960s. We are now diverse. Here is the problem. The butchers bill for America's war machine has always been paid by conservative white men. This is the exact demographic that is now leaving the military. Who is going to defend your empire when the demographic who has always excelled in this function no longer feel the need to fight for an empire that openly despises them? Why would "diverse" segments of America fight for a "white supremacist" country? Spreading the message that whites are evil has the effect of turning off recruitment for both whites and non-whites. There is literally nothing for young men to unify behind. There is no tribe they are defending. It is rankly obvious to them that almost all wars are fought for the profit and power of elite lizard people who despise them. Nuclear weapons guarantee territorial sovereignty for America. However the recruitment crisis could result in the inability of America to project power and represents another step in empire collapse.

 

The Irish were hated at first as were Italians, but later they were accepted as productive parts of the society. Germans came in very large numbers to settle the West and people dismissed them because they didn't speak any English, but their kids were as American as anyone. It IS the story of the US whether you want to accept it of not.

Who do the immigrants divide you against?

Ok.

 

Who told you the drafts of the past were only for conservative white men?

Ah, the "white man persecution complex"

Of course there is. You choose to place yourself outside of it. Of course the "divide and conquer" is the very goal of the current populist movement, and its bearing some unfortunate fruit.

 

The blacks and Latinos hate each other, as do you he Muslims and the Jews.