When does AOCs seat go back up for election?

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  1. Matthewthf

    Matthewthf Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The top 10% are Democrats. The wealthiest people in the country including the billionaires are Democrats who only care about power, money and themselves.

    They will not help America. AOC is one of the corrupt Democrats. She will destroy many jobs with her new green deal. She will wreck our economy that Trump had at record high levels.
     
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    Welfare keeps people poor but it is needed to keep people from starving. That is the most social program we have. That's far from having a actaull country run by socialism. It failed in 40 countries. We don't need it here.
     
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    I notice you forgot to mention the fire dept; police dept; sanitation dept; public schools, public hospitals; mental health services; Highway and public works dept; EMS service, etc. All of which are socialist programs. If we were to eliminate all socialism in this country, I daresay a lot of people would be negatively impacted by it.
     
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    Matthewthf Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So what is wrong with the way America is now that requires more socialist programs or a socialist government?
     
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    2 years, she's a representative, they all run every 2 years.

    She's nearly guaranteed her seat. Her people are among the most progressive in America and she matches them closely.

    Plus she is good at Constituent service and that can keep you in Congress for years and years

    One thing you might run on is the way she ran out an Amazon branch just recently. That's several thousand jobs that won't be in there. Thing is that Amazon branches demand so many tax concessions that they aren't really worth it. Also, they are known as a shitty place to work. Poor people generally aren't greatly enthused at the Jobs Jobs Jobs mantra since they often have to really work at the crappy bullshit positions that crowd out good work. (Most Republicans last "work" was helping Daddsy clip stock coupons)
     
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    So you're going to tell them

    Now there's an attitude that will get lots of votes.
     
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    The same thing might have been said over a hundred years ago? What is wrong with America that requires more socialist programs such as medicare and medicade or OSHA? It's all because as Americans we try to better ourselves and make America a better place to live.
     
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    Is Bezos a Democrat? Certainly the Koch brothers aren't....Meanwhile Buffett seems to have very modest tastes.

    (link)

    Has America become poorer under Donald Trump, as Joe Biden claims? (theconversation.com)

    "When Trump took office in January 2017, the American economy was back on track. The country had entered a period of expansion that would be described as the longest in its history. In December 2019, unemployment was at 3.5%, its lowest rate in half a century. Yet in the same year, the poverty rate in the United States was around 18%, with the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) ranking the United States fourth on its poverty rate index. At the time, more than one in ten Americans suffered from food insecurity and 37 million Americans resorted to federal food assistance for low- and no-income people" .....
    According to Feeding America, the largest network of food banks in the United States, nearly one in six Americans suffered from food insecurity in 2020, including 18 million children.

    Definitely not an economy that is working for all...times up, and Trump is out!

    But now we have Biden who on past performance won't do any better than Trump. Hopefully AOC and Bernie Sanders will have an influence on a new policy agenda, but that remains to be seen.

    Btw, in what way is AOC "corrupt"?
     
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    On most issues, AOC is too liberal for my political tastes, but it is so entertaining watching her abuse conservatives. Not as entertaining as when Katie Porter puts a smackdown, but entertaining nonetheless.
     
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    I'm interested: are the issues on which AOC is too liberal for you economic or social?
     
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    Economic. I don't support free college tuition, rent cancellation, and other economic issues. I fully support Medicare for all as every other country has made it work and our health care system is a disaster.
     
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    Are you referring to Obama's health care plan or hospitals?
     
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    Because she's blowing smoke. Her bio says she had a minor in economics, so she knows socialism is collective ownership of the means of production. AOC doesn't push collectivizing production and is, therefore, not a socialist.

    Why would she call herself a socialist is she isn't one? Beats me.
     
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    How does she believe socialism is collective ownership of production if she's pushing socialist economic policies? Do we need to remind you of the Presidential debate of Biden against Kamala (when they discussed the AOC-backed and Bernie backed policies)? How quickly we forget how Biden was very against that.

    I believe, that YOU believe, you are correct. And I believe Rachel Maddow gives you a pat on the back.
     
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    Socialism doesn't work because it doesn't efficiently allocate capital.
     
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    Correct. It also creates tiers within the government. The ones with money will stay in power forever because the poor have no means to get out of poverty.
     
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    She doesn't push socialist policies--collective ownership. She advocates income redistribution through the tax system.
    Harris knew Biden had a lock on the moderate lane and tried to squeeze between Crazy Bernie and Joe. She crashed and burned.
     
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    Capitalism can leave poor people poor, too. The train wreck part of socialism (on a nationwide scale) is the inability to efficiently allocate capital.
     
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    Capitalism offers something socialism doesn't. The ability for an individual to create their own future
     
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    Factually incorrect.
    A silly, utterly irrelevant claim.
    The GND is propaganda. It will never be implemented. But that doesn't mean we don't have to do something about greenhouse gas production.
    AOC is a nobody who will never run the economy.

    FYI ... The economy grew at the same rate during Trump's first three years that it did in Obama's last three. You swallowed Trump's BS whole.

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    You first quote, where you said "factually incorrect". Can you please cite the wealthiest people in the country and their party affiliations? Which ones are Republicans or non Democrats?

    We appreciate you citing your "claims".
     
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    The danger for capitalism is that most people are slowly being deprived of chance to "create their own future." Once they realize they're on the outside looking in, they lose faith in the system.
     
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    Capitalism gives them the chance to create their own destiny. Sometimes, it's who you know, most of the time, it's how hard you work. Socialism is the laziest form of "government".
     
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    https://www.forbes.com/sites/katias...ies-republicans-or-democrats/?sh=42922f413e83

    This article you cited is from 2014 and also states that the Republicans donated to Democrats.

    Are you kidding me with this? lol

    Can I cite 6 year old articles after the 2016 election and expect to be taken seriously too?

    Let me guess, you did a really quick google search and picked the first one? Who are the richest 10 percent today? This election...

    LOL
     

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