When does it become a form of mental illness

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  1. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    Do you really think people acquire their sexual identity in biology class??

    Seriously?

    Again, there is complexity. What you should have learned is that there can be variation.
     
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    Then citing the specific laws of which post #48 runs afoul won't be a problem, so ante up already.
     
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  3. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Cherry picking out of context quotes does NOT refute the FACT that family rejection is a CAUSE for SUICIDE.
     
  4. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    I thought you said it was THEIST family rejection, are we now doing the backwards watusi?
     
  5. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Semantics all you have left now?

    Sad!
     
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  6. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    No, it's not 'semantics' you made a very specific claim alleges that religious families do not accept their 'alternate lifestyle' (?) family members and it causes large numbers of suicides. When called to pony up, you hem and hawwed, and still are.
     
  7. Derideo_Te

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    Perhaps this will help you understand the REALITY of the HATRED that the LBGT community is facing from evangelicals and how much that INCREASES the risk of suicides!

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/queer-youth-religion-suicide-study_n_5ad4f7b3e4b077c89ceb9774

    https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/5050/us-evangelicals-target-lgbt-young-people-facebook-youtube-ads/

    https://www.focusonthefamily.com/fa...y/gay-individual-feels-rejected-by-christians

     
  8. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    On a personal note...my sister in law is very Christian ( though she never acts like it) and her son is gay. She tried to deny it and in many ways hide him from family...he got married to his husband two years ago. When her son came out she all but disowned him and treated him as diseased until he simply moved to another state and even till this day she barely even talks to or of him....she has lost her own son and the respect of almost everyone outside her church family. We no longer invite my wifes own brother over because he would bring her....its a pity.
     
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    My own spouse has cousins who were raised by their mother after their father was killed in a car accident at a relatively young age. The eldest son married an evangelical woman and they had two children. When Christmas time came around she invited her MIL but not her other son because he was gay. Her MIL told her where to shove her Christmas and went and spent the day with her gay son instead. Worth noting that all of them are Christians but only the evangelical hates her gay BIL. The married son was killed at about the same age that his father died leaving her to raise her own kids alone. Be ironic if one of her two kids ends up being gay.
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I just find it upsetting if not disgusting that a religion of love with no judgement shows so little love and no acceptance in its "Flock". We see it here on this forum and it is even worse in real life experience....either ignorant stupidity or simple hatred are in play.
     
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    Christianity preaches about loving your fellow man but evangelicals ignore that part because it doesn't meet with their approval.
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And...Jesus wept.
     
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    LoL "cherry picking" data from your source that shows only 19% are "rejected" and 52% are supported by their family.

    Tell me more about your rejection of the data in your own source.
     
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    It's ignorance...people too stupid to think and rationalize for themselves.

    I have a brother who is righteous in religion and now with conservative politics...and he no longer speaks to me. This is happening across the USA! It's no surprise to me that Trump's rabid conservative flock is made up of the same rabid Christians...all of them greedy and righteous and could care less about what's in the best interest of the USA over their own perceived needs. To hell with facts or any sense of compassion! I've always hated religious dogma and now I hate political dogma which doesn't leave much to talk about these days...
     
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    Funny thing about bisexuality. Straight men who slam homosexuality, are usually all for it when it comes to women. And having done a few threesomes, I'm the first to cheer. But I was sitting here watching a great series when suddenly they threw in a gay love scene between two men. I was sitting here cringing EWWWWWWW!!! OH GOD NO DONT KISS!!!!! AHHHH!!!!!! FF FF FF FF... whew. :) But now put on two hot women having sex and I'm glued to the screen. :D
     
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    Yep. The real culture war is over the character of the nation and its leaders. Is this going to be a good country, or a bad country? It isn't about economics or immigration or abortion or health care. The real choice is, will this nation strive to be good and decent, or has it decided to follow people like trump - where the alleged ends justify the means, and where you lie cheat and steal, kill, and torture, to get what you want. No one can be so naive as to think trump is a good person. And that's the point. THEY DON'T CARE. I'll be a sob. In this country, and they don't care what kind of man he is. And they don't see the obvious threat to liberty and democracy. They are deaf and blind, but they can certain talk.

    It is the saddest thing that has ever happened in America. It has turned to the dark side. Not even the pretense of honor or decency remains.
     
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    It was amazing to see how fast this country could fall. Trump showed up and it was like everything that we ever took to be core American values, got flushed down the toilet. It was like someone hit a switch. And suddenly we weren't in Kansas anymore Toto.
     
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    No doubt you're eminently qualified to render such an assessment.
     
  19. tecoyah

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    Agreed....there is no doubt.
     
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    Christian Fundamentalists are very much like Islamic Fundamentalists. Their religion is far more about the vitriolic hatred they use it to justify rather than anything else. It's a level of hypocrisy which we can't understand because most of us would just renounce our religion entirely rather than eschew its most fundamental tenets root and branch, but that does not seem to occur to some people.
     
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    Still not getting it? :eek:

    NONE of the above REFUTES the FACT that FAMILY REJECTION is one of the CAUSES for committing suicide.

    If there was MORE family rejection there would be MORE suicides.

    Therefore if there is LESS family rejection then there will be LESS suicides.

    Capiche?
     
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    Makes me recall when I was on a business trip and I could not sleep so I was watching a movie in my hotel room that only ended well after midnight. I got up and went to the bathroom and when I came back there were these two hot girls making out in a hot tub. Both of them well endowed blonds and it was engrossing. Then they climbed out of the hot tub and they were both hung like horses. That blew my mind and I had to laugh at myself because I had been turned on by watching two shemales. :)
     
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    :applause:
     
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    Except that little part about not tossing gays off of rooftops.
     

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