Why don't whites demand reparations and why don't blacks demand reparations from Africa

scarlet witch · Apr 29, 2021

Yes indeed, the Arabs were trading slaves for much longer than the Americans as the slave trade is 1000's of years old....goes back to pyramids in Egypt, and the feudal African tribes sold the defeated tribes into slavery...

...but this doesn't fit the narrative and head hurts when thinking so.....Racist!!!!! and Reparations!!!!!

jack4freedom · Apr 29, 2021

Mike12 said: ↑

Whites should demand reparations from muslims in middle east:

Barbery slave trade:
"According to Robert Davis, between 1 million and 1.25 million Europeans were captured by Barbary pirates and sold as slaves in North Africa and Ottoman Empire between the 15th and 19th centuries.[17][18] However, to extrapolate his numbers, Davis assumes the number of European slaves captured by Barbary pirates were constant for a 250-year period, stating:

There are no records of how many men, women and children were enslaved, but it is possible to calculate roughly the number of fresh captives that would have been needed to keep populations steady and replace those slaves who died, escaped, were ransomed, or converted to Islam. On this basis it is thought that around 8,500 new slaves were needed annually to replenish numbers – about 850,000 captives over the century from 1580 to 1680. By extension, for the 250 years between 1530 and 1780, the figure could easily have been as high as 1,250,000."[19]"

christian slavery in Muslim Ibera
'During the Al-Andalus (also known as Islamic Iberia), the Moors controlled much of the peninsula.

In Spain concretely they imported white Christian slaves from the 8th century until the Reconquista in the late 15th century. The slaves were exported from the Christian section of Spain, as well as Eastern Europe, sparking significant reaction from many in Christian Spain and many Christians still living in Muslim Spain. Soon after, Muslims were successful, taking 30,000 Christian captives from Spain.'

Ottoman slavery
Slavery was a legal and a significant part of the Ottoman Empire's economy and society.[28] The main sources of slaves were war captives and organized enslavement expeditions in Africa, Eastern Europe, and Circassia and Georgia in the Caucasus.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_slavery#Barbary_slave_trade

Blacks should demand reparations from Africa:

There was already a domestic slave trade when they arrived, Amarteifio said, although slavery didn’t mean what it came to mean in America. Enslaved people had some rights and opportunities.

Still, “The system already existed,” Amarteifio said. “The Europeans saw it. And thought: ‘Ah, we can try these people in our lands in the New World.’”

But Amarteifio says the Europeans weren’t going out and capturing Africans. They couldn’t — they got sick and died from illnesses like malaria. Some African ethnic groups went into business, warring with other groups so they could capture prisoners they sold as slaves to the Europeans. Amarteifio says they were organized and intentional about it.

“To pursue slavery successfully, you need a highly organized group because somebody has to go out there — somebody has to locate the victims; somebody has to lead an army there; somebody has to capture them, transport them to the selling centers; all the time, keeping an eye on them to make sure they don't revolt,” he said. “And then sell them, and move on.”

https://www.pri.org/stories/2019-08...-forgot-and-remembered-their-role-slave-trade
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I believe you should get reparations immediately. Good luck.

jack4freedom · Apr 29, 2021

scarlet witch said: ↑

Yes indeed, the Arabs were trading slaves for much longer than the Americans as the slave trade is 1000's of years old....goes back to pyramids in Egypt, and the feudal African tribes sold the defeated tribes into slavery...

...but this doesn't fit the narrative and head hurts when thinking so.....Racist!!!!! and Reparations!!!!!
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You deserve reparations for all you do here.

scarlet witch · Apr 29, 2021

jack4freedom said: ↑

You deserve reparations for all you do here.
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My reparation is truth, I think there are many people just like me who are so hungry and thirsty for truth, we are desperate for it. The rise of non mainstream news is testimony to this fact

jack4freedom · Apr 29, 2021

Mike12 said: ↑

pretty much..... they offered slaves to europeans for a profit, otherwise, europeans would've probably enslaved indians or other white people. They happen to come across africa and noticed 'hey, look, africans have slaves... why don't we look into using slaves just as africans use slaves, we need free labor.' Then the africans saw an opportunity to profit from selling their own kind and they captured, enslaved and sold their own... 'here you go europeans, good doing business with you'

yeah, pretty much.
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Sounds like a god deal to me. You really have a swell way of making excuses for slave traders and owners back in the day. Perhaps you should lend your skills to all of these African American malcontents who resented how their ancestors were treated. A guy like you could go a long way in helping old wounds to heal. Maybe you should consider a career in politics. Just sayin’. I love your “They happen to come across Africa and noticed, hey look, Africans have slaves” theory. Keep up the good work champ!

jack4freedom · Apr 29, 2021

scarlet witch said: ↑

My reparation is truth, I think there are many people just like me who are so hungry and thirsty for truth, we are desperate for it. The rise of non mainstream news is testimony to this fact
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I really hope you quench your thirst for truth champ. Try NewsMax or OAN. They are really full of it!

Lil Mike · Apr 30, 2021

jack4freedom said: ↑

Sounds like a god deal to me. You really have a swell way of making excuses for slave traders and owners back in the day. Perhaps you should lend your skills to all of these African American malcontents who resented how their ancestors were treated. A guy like you could go a long way in helping old wounds to heal. Maybe you should consider a career in politics. Just sayin’. I love your “They happen to come across Africa and noticed, hey look, Africans have slaves” theory. Keep up the good work champ!
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Interesting point. Most Westerners don't really get these tribal grudges that we see acted out all over the world, and wish that people could bury ancient grudges and try to work together, but not you, "resented how their ancestors were treated" is as old as time itself. It explains most of the world's political violence and you seem to legitimize it.

jack4freedom · Apr 30, 2021

Lil Mike said: ↑

Interesting point. Most Westerners don't really get these tribal grudges that we see acted out all over the world, and wish that people could bury ancient grudges and try to work together, but not you, "resented how their ancestors were treated" is as old as time itself. It explains most of the world's political violence and you seem to legitimize it.
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I do?

Lil Mike · Apr 30, 2021

jack4freedom said: ↑

I do?
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Based on your comment that I boldened, yes.

May I ask what country you are from? If the Balkans or the Middle East, this comment would make sense.

jack4freedom · Apr 30, 2021

Lil Mike said: ↑

Based on your comment that I boldened, yes.

May I ask what country you are from? If the Balkans or the Middle East, this comment would make sense.
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I am from McKeesport, just down the Monongahela from Pittsburgh in the USA.

Ostap Bender · Apr 30, 2021

Mike12 said: ↑

Whites should demand reparations from muslims in middle east:

Barbery slave trade:
"According to Robert Davis, between 1 million and 1.25 million Europeans were captured by Barbary pirates and sold as slaves in North Africa and Ottoman Empire between the 15th and 19th centuries.[17][18] However, to extrapolate his numbers, Davis assumes the number of European slaves captured by Barbary pirates were constant for a 250-year period, stating:

There are no records of how many men, women and children were enslaved, but it is possible to calculate roughly the number of fresh captives that would have been needed to keep populations steady and replace those slaves who died, escaped, were ransomed, or converted to Islam. On this basis it is thought that around 8,500 new slaves were needed annually to replenish numbers – about 850,000 captives over the century from 1580 to 1680. By extension, for the 250 years between 1530 and 1780, the figure could easily have been as high as 1,250,000."[19]"

christian slavery in Muslim Ibera
'During the Al-Andalus (also known as Islamic Iberia), the Moors controlled much of the peninsula.

In Spain concretely they imported white Christian slaves from the 8th century until the Reconquista in the late 15th century. The slaves were exported from the Christian section of Spain, as well as Eastern Europe, sparking significant reaction from many in Christian Spain and many Christians still living in Muslim Spain. Soon after, Muslims were successful, taking 30,000 Christian captives from Spain.'

Ottoman slavery
Slavery was a legal and a significant part of the Ottoman Empire's economy and society.[28] The main sources of slaves were war captives and organized enslavement expeditions in Africa, Eastern Europe, and Circassia and Georgia in the Caucasus.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_slavery#Barbary_slave_trade

Blacks should demand reparations from Africa:

There was already a domestic slave trade when they arrived, Amarteifio said, although slavery didn’t mean what it came to mean in America. Enslaved people had some rights and opportunities.

Still, “The system already existed,” Amarteifio said. “The Europeans saw it. And thought: ‘Ah, we can try these people in our lands in the New World.’”

But Amarteifio says the Europeans weren’t going out and capturing Africans. They couldn’t — they got sick and died from illnesses like malaria. Some African ethnic groups went into business, warring with other groups so they could capture prisoners they sold as slaves to the Europeans. Amarteifio says they were organized and intentional about it.

“To pursue slavery successfully, you need a highly organized group because somebody has to go out there — somebody has to locate the victims; somebody has to lead an army there; somebody has to capture them, transport them to the selling centers; all the time, keeping an eye on them to make sure they don't revolt,” he said. “And then sell them, and move on.”

https://www.pri.org/stories/2019-08...-forgot-and-remembered-their-role-slave-trade
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If whites will demand reparations they will be labeled as racist.
If the same do blacks they will be called 'human rights activists' and 'freedom fighters'

kungfuliberal · May 1, 2021

jack4freedom said: ↑

I believe you should get reparations immediately. Good luck.
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Bearack · Jul 6, 2021

Thomas Sowell did a really nice piece on the untold truth of slavery.

Cybred · Jul 6, 2021

Mike12 said: ↑

Do you only care about what whites have done to blacks and not what blacks have done to blacks?

so you care about the 20 or so unarmed blacks killed a year by white cops but not the thousands killed by blacks every year?

so you care about european having black slaves but not black on black slavery which existed well before europeans were sold slaves by blacks in africa?

do you not care about the mass murder, genocide committed by blacks on other blacks in africa?

here’s just a glimpse of what blacks have done to each other:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-26875506

‘In just 100 days in 1994, about 800,000 people were slaughtered in Rwanda by ethnic Hutu extremists. They were targeting members of the minority Tutsi community, as well as their political opponents, irrespective of their ethnic origin.’

Almost 1 million slaughtered in 100 days and this is just one example of the black on black violence that has occurred for hundreds of years everywhere... people like you turn your heads and ignore because evils perpetrated on blacks by other blacks is OKAY.

When you only care about white on black and not black on black, is that not racist?
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No its not.

21Bronco · Jul 6, 2021

jack4freedom said: ↑

I do?
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Sure. Talk of reparations and wokism are pushing tribalism today, supported by the Democrat Party.

jack4freedom · Jul 6, 2021

21Bronco said: ↑

Sure. Talk of reparations and wokism are pushing tribalism today, supported by the Democrat Party.
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Another bunch of lies by a Hannitized Ditto Head....Big surprise! I know nothing of “wokism” or “tribalism”, I do not belong to the Democratic Party (just prefer them at this point in time over the total scum who control the Republican Party of today) and don’t really have any opinion on whether or not reparations should be paid to anyone at this point. You are just regurgitating almost word for word, crap you consume from your fake news outlets. Garbage in, garbage out.

ToddWB · Jul 6, 2021

Havew to wonder what a person who doesn't keep up with politics is doing on a political discussion forum

Lil Mike · Jul 6, 2021

ToddWB said: ↑

Havew to wonder what a person who doesn't keep up with politics is doing on a political discussion forum
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I'm sure he's just a country lawyer, not familiar with these big city ways...

CCitizen · Jul 6, 2021

Almost no white person was enslaved by black people.

Russian and East European peasants and workers obtained Reparations from their Nobility in 1918-1920 and late 1940s respectively. Russian and East European Nobility lost almost all of their property.

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