Why don't whites demand reparations and why don't blacks demand reparations from Africa

lol, true

 

1. Anyone who's over 30 and actually paid attention to national/international events easily recognizes the comical writing style to "intellectualize" racism and bigotry by certain white folk. No matter how you slice it, the conclusions are all the same....blacks game the system, won't take responsibility, Jews and communist leaning "lib'rals" are the real racists and are using blacks to take over, blah, blah, blah. Yep, a pretty disgusting attitude used by intellectually impotent cowards who can't honestly cop to their bigoted agenda. You talk the talk, you get the label.

2. What I posted was straight forward and simple.....no way did it contain or allude to any of the self serving "what if" clap trap you posted. Once again, you display the a-typical NAAWP tactic....you try to revise what someone else posted and try to pass it off as a fact or logical conclusion. Unfortunate for you that anyone with a high school G.E.D. can read otherwise and see your folly. You expose your own racist insanity and stupidity in trying to disprove a contention you disagree with. Your generalizations are the a-typical fall back of all sheet wearers, "well, others did it to and it's all in the past so forget it". Right, tell that to the Confederate flag wavers still complaining about the Civil War.

3. Obviously, you didn't think things through before you typed. By the "logic" of the OP and its subject title, whites/Europeans killed/enslaved each other before and after they hit the North American shores. So you negate your own screed.

What's hysterical is your justification for the colonialist/imperialist actions or your European ancestors ... American indians didn't own the land, they just happened to be there first. No-one owns land without a way to enforce it.

Riight. That justifies the old USSR rolling into neighboring countries and taking over, the old Nazi's trying to take over the world, etc., etc. The Native people in North America weren't bothering your ancestors...they were invaded and eventually occupied. Period.

Thanks for confirming my assessment of you, kid. Don't get too close to that burning cross now!

 

You said that out loud, Love.

(my bold, because I am).

 

You know exactly what I meant

From another country I said. It's nothing to do with legitimacy.

 

You realise my comment about Romans/Visigoths was a little jocularity, yes?

 

Yes. But honestly, for some it might not be..

 

Trooo!

 

Europeans have a long, rich history of slavery, but the colonies, and later the USA, made its own unique race-based commercial trade of it, and we kept slavery going until, well, the ancestors of Trump's base were forced to give it up when they lost the Civil War.

 

Well that's one way of looking at it I guess - keep focus on the historical.

OTOH you could say they just passed the baton to the New Racists/Plantation Owners.

 

I want reparations for everything my ancestors did to my other ancestors.

My English heritage needs to pay for what it did to my Scottish heritage, and my Spanish heritage needs to pay for it's crimes against my Taino heritage.

I have been letting myself live in my house, keep myself well fed, and pay for my healthcare, but damnit, it just doesn't wash away the pain of the way my genes treated each other.

I'm not looking for a handout. I just want what I owe myself.

 

The scottish invaded england and your spanish ancestors enslaved native americans therefore we determine your claim to be worth $0.00. We will be taking a 70% cut due to the research undertaken on your behalf.

 

No race has committed more crime against blacks than blacks themselves. They were even enslaving themselves well before whites enslaved them.

across africa, the black on black violence has been insane for hundreds of years.. blacks slaughtering each other like if they were animals.. even today you read stories of mass graves, women being mutilated...

And in US, no race has killed more blacks than blacks themselves. White cops kill a few blacka a year whereas blacks kill thousands of blacks a year, including innocent people all the time... children, women.. anything and those lives don’t matter to anyone.

Blacks have been by far their worst enemy..

same for muslims. No-one has killed more muslims than muslims themselves and it’s not even close.

American indians were vicious, they would kill women, children, scalp anyone. The only reason europeans won was because europeans had the greater numbers and weaponry; otherwise, the ‘innocent’ american indians would’ve killed every european and scalped them all, even 4 year olds. They were no better, just lost the battles. We can thank europeans for the country we have, not indians.

It’s just reality, so the idea that ‘whites’ are so bad relative to other races ignores the crimes these other races, ethnic groups perpetrated on each other.. which dwarfs what white men have done to these groups, as a matter of fact.

 

Every race, virtually every people have gone through times of disadvantage created by other people, by systems or circumstance- and quite often, by they themselves. Not just race by any means- but by nationality, political positions, religion, family history, etc.... But far more often, by their own mindset. For example the person who things that discrimination is at fault for all their problems and applies for a job with an attitude of hostility finds that just as they suspected, they did not get the job.

However, the question of who you are today, and in the wider sense who the group of people you are part of are- depends primarily on the decisions you and others in your group make; how they conduct themselves and the way they live. What may have happened to your ancestors that died long before you were born only controls your today and your future if you choose to use that as your excuse for failing to be a good person, a good citizen. What you do does reflect on the group you are part of, and all in that group will be affected to some degree. For example, blacks are often treated with suspicion. Is that because they are black? Or is it because of behaviors we see disproportionately among black people? IF it's behaviors, then the key is that color is not the cause- it is the common denominator that links to a group characteristic. IF black dogs bit people 4 times as often as yellow dogs, we would all see black dogs as more dangerous. If that were reversed, we would see yellow dogs as more dangerous. Not because the dogs were black or yellow, but because the trait paralleled the common denominator of color, identifying risk.

A white person is over 40 times more likely to be assaulted by a black person than a black is to be assaulted by a white person. 40+ Times. WHY would you not be concerned?



In general crime statistics (see FBI table 43, https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2018/crime-in-the-u.s.-2018/tables/table-43 ) nearly all category's of crime have a disproportionate ratio where black people commit far more crimes than their share of the population. Murder for example- while blacks constitute only 13% of the population, they commit 53% of all murders- 4X what would be expected.
This is also true of robberies and many other serious crimes. Thus, this behavior also creates a disproportionate level of interactions with law enforcement; it creates a rise in caution in a great many situations. Certainly a law enforcement officer will be aware of this increased risk. NOT because the person is black, but because black people have a track record that supports that concern.


Nothing is more repressive than traits like embracing victimhood, procrastinating doing for yourself because others won't let you and owe you. These things strip you of the power over your own life- and you wind up "disadvantaged" because you abdicated the responsibility to take that power; to get your butt in the driver's seat of your own life and guide it.

Nothing anyone else can do will compensate for that or make you a whole person. IF you won't do it for yourself, you are screwed and have yourself to blame. We can give guidance and in some ways assist those who are really trying, but there is nothing we can do for those who blame others for their situation.

 

They know the difference. But saying so doesnt help their narrative.

 

And this excuses the actions of white slave owning and racist Americans how?

 

You know how we know racism exists in this country? Because certain people will start a million conversations
about the high rate of violent crime among Black Americans, but never once will they say that over 90% of Black Americans have never been involved in a violent crime. They have a need to portray Black Americans as the enemy, and admitting that
the vast majority of Black Americans are simply going about their daily lives as doctors, nurses, factory workers, firemen, policemen,
truck drivers, and business owners would go against their racist agenda.

 

Research fail. The Romans first attempted to invade Scotland, thought the better of it after they got wrecked, and built a wall. After the English took England from the Romans they tried for Scotland too. Lots of battles back and forth for control and independence.

https://www.ool.co.uk/blog/history-rivalry-england-v-scotland/#:~:text=In 1296 King Edward I,English and executed for treason.

Also... You need to research Taino a bit more. Spanish treatment of native americans was the whole point.

Societies blend. Even among societies that have beef. People are individuals, so it happens that individuals make individual choices. Those choices are based on their own interests, not based on some group identity. How can you blame an individual for his own blends of your definition of his group identity?

 

Don’t be spewing this nonsense and think it’s anything remotely worthy to be respected as a valid point.

reality is that those crime statistics are staggering and should not be hidden under the bed by throwing this bogus trash stat you just showed

most blacks are not criminals? So because of this, doesn’t matter that they commit 50% of the murder even though they are only 13% of population? And over represented in virtually all violent crime?

So doesn’t matter at all right? Okay... borrowing this logic..

99% of cops are good, so what the big fuss with police brutality?

Over 90% of whites are not white supremacists, so what’s the big fuss with white supremacists?

97% or so who get covid don’t die, what’s the big fuss with covid?

blacks kill thousands of blacks a year, white cops kill around 20 unarmed blacks a year. What’s the big fuss over these few and not the many?

 

And all those stats you just showed help put problems in perspective. Why are racists so afraid to discuss the fact the vast
majority of Black Americans are not involved in crime?

 

Why is blm not willing to accept 99% of cops are good?

why is the left not willing to accept that vast majority of whites are not white supremacists?


And who is saying majority of blacks are criminals? Straw man.
We are just pointing out they commit crime at much higher rates and their share of crime is disproportionate when compared to their representation in population. We are also pointing out they kill over 100 times more blacks than cops do. Why do we point it out? Because you and your bunch spend all day talking about white supremacy and bad cops when vast majority of whites and cops are good and not white supremacists. We are simply exposing you for being disingenuous, inconsistent, wanting to have it both ways. If you care about black lives, go after thugs killing many more blacks than cops, ask for more police. You want to go after bad cops? Fine but show me you also want to curb black on black crime (a much bigger problem). If you don’t want anyone making a fuss of the black crime because most blacks are not criminals then f STop making a fuss of bad cops when 99% are good and white supremacists when 99% of whites are not white supremacists.
Be consistent or we will expose you

 

At the end of the day its only one race that has massacred tortured enslaved raped and pillaged EVERY CONTINENT ON EARTH and laughs about it

 

And you won't see any post of mine that points out the excessive crime rate of blacks that doesn't also acknowledge the good citizen blacks- and often, how the impact of the bad conduct people hurts them unfairly.

You cannot erase the factor of blacks committing 4X their share of crime by saying most of them aren't criminals. It is this proportion that makes makes the difference. Racism in the fundamental sense is the assumption that a race is biologically inferior- and that is also something I've never said. It is behavior that matters.

Am I prejudiced? Yes, and so is everybody in some way. I'm prejudiced against crime, against dishonesty, against abuse of children or spouses, against people who fail to properly support and raise the children they bring int the world, who abuse aid programs that we create to help them- and against the determined people who try to distort truth to confuse people. ALL of that is related to behavior- not color.

We see a lot of pressure right now to pretend that black people don't commit crime, that liberals are rational when they rant about something other do but ignore it when they do the same thing worse themselves
(ie, border situation right now) and think anyone with a conflicting point of view needs to be punished. ALL of that is behavioral. BAD behavior.

Neither your race or your politics or your religion or anything else excuses these things, they are simply bad behavior that is detrimental to the entire nation.
Act respectably and rationally- and you get respect from me, regardless of your color or where you come from. Act otherwise- and I will see you as unworthy of trust, and quite likely someone who has no place in a honorable society. NO exceptions for your being black, white or anything else.

Racism has nothing to do with acknowledging relevant facts. The most virulent racists in America today- are black. They are fighting right now to resurrect the racism that once existed- because they need it; it's their excuse. They intimidate the quality people among themselves into being silent, so the percentage that is trash gets the publicity, like BLM. When you believe your race relieves you of your obligation to act honorably, to carry your own weight, to be respectable- and blame your actions on everybody that is white- you are indeed a true racist, and I am prejudice against that too.

 

That's an interesting take. If we're discussing crime, wouldn't the conversation be about the criminals? I mean, why would normal people "going about their daily lives as doctors, nurses, factory workers, firemen, policemen" ever play into that conversation?

 

But the day's not over yet.

Right now, counting every continent on Earth, there are an estimated 40 million people enslaved. In Uzbekistan slaves are picking the cotton to make the clothes that are likely in your closet. They are in the porn you beat off to. In Vietnam, Cambodia, and Brazil they are picking the coffee beans you had for breakfast this morning. In Asia they are making the chips in your living room TV.

Right now you are surrounded by the advantages of slavery. What do you owe those people?