Why the right has no chance of winning the Culture Wars

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  1. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yes!!! And, judging by Republican polls, so far MAGAs have been falling for it.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Correct, with the Democrats help. I voted for Jo, but can see why people support trump.
     
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    States have different ages for age of consent.
    Once upon a time in this country people age 14 would legally marry without parents consent.

    Yes, rape of one not legal to consent should be prosecuted.
    However, this topic has nothing at all to do with rape and is a strawman.

    There's certain cases where one transitions thru puberty and it may be to late to have gender reassignment surgery.
    This is not a case for gov't to interfere. But there should be strict guidelines that need to be followed. But NO, should never ever be the answer from gov't.
     
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    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    He is not electable. At least not anymore. IMO, never was. I saw his charade and new just how narcissistic he his and his true motives.
    But he still has that large cult like following. A Jim Jones, David Koresh type hold on people.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Omitting the age of consent from the discussion would allow one to hide a double standard. "The child is mature enough to decide on what I agree with, but not mature enough to decide on what I oppose."

    Minors should not be bound to contracts, be allowed to buy alcohol, firearms, explosives, tobacco, get tattoos, etc.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, he got elected and has a shot of getting elected again. Its not because he is a great candidate. The overreach from the other party makes him the lesser of evils for many. I voted for Jo.
     
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    He may get the R nomination, doubtful, but possible.
    But will NOT win the general election.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thats what she said :p
     
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    Excellent point. The Left has a taxpayer subsidized network that insulates the losers of the Culture Wars from feeling the full effects of losing the culture wars.

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    Here's a better question. The Right has held the House for twice as long as the Dems, since 1995, so why are we still nationally subsidizing these left wing indoctrination centers known as "Universities" and the vote harvesting operations of the Left, in our Blue Cities?
     
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    Mitch McConnell spoke about that topic the other day.

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    TL-DR

    What makes you think you are winning the Culture War?

    The Progressive Youth Chimera

    "Demographics are not destiny."

    Bribed Joe has lost half his margin since 2020 with the under 30 vote, probably because the corrupt FBI and CIA lied Bribed Joe into the WH by lying about Hunter's laptop.

    Now their integrity is lying on the floor like "Smack My" Fani's Willis' panties on a sex junket with her direct report subordinate.

    'The overwhelming majority (65 percent) of 18-29 year old voters identify themselves as moderate-to-conservative.'

    'When given a list of political labels to choose from (they could select as many as they wished), just 22 percent said they identified with the label “progressive” barely higher than identifying with the label “Republican.”

    'On immigration, 49 percent of under 30 voters consider Biden more liberal than they are on the issue, 46 percent consider Biden more liberal on the border and 44 percent think he’s more liberal on asylum seekers than they are. More of these voters think the US should take in fewer, rather than more, refugees and asylum seekers and more think the US should be stricter rather than looser in granting refugee or asylum status. And more under 30 voters prefer an approach that would “increase border enforcement and make asylum and refugee policies stricter” to one that would “increase legal pathways to immigrate to the United States.” Consistent with these views, these voters say by 24 points that they support “a bipartisan deal that would pair immediate aid to Ukraine and Israel with border security funding and stricter asylum standards for entering into the United States.”'

    I have no idea why you think you are winning the culture war.
     
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    They are, quite obviously.
     
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    They were. They lost the classical liberals and libertarians and the only people on their side now are super woke or older liberals who think it's still the 1950's were blacks and gays everywhere are being hunted down by white supremacists.
     
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    Their steadily shrinking base driven to berzerker pitch with campaigns of divisive propaganda and hate. It's sad, quite frankly, I think it makes people feel sad for them.

    'Perhaps “centering social justice and intersectionality” is not really “meeting young people where they are!” Actually-existing young voters are in fact quite different from the young people that inhabit the fever dreams of progressive activists.'

    Are Under 30 voters on board with Bribed Joe's the Gender Bender craze?

    'On transgender issues, 48 percent of these voters (remember these are basically Gen Z voters we’re talking about!) consider Biden more liberal than they are on these issues. And by 10 points, under 30 voters oppose the idea that transgender individuals should be allowed to play on sports teams that do not match their birth gender.'

    That simply makes common sense.

    'On crime, 40 percent of 18-29 year old voters think Biden is more liberal than they are on the issue. By 12 points, they think criminals are not punished harshly enough in the country rather than too harshly.'

    'On oil and gas exploration, 45 percent believe Biden is more liberal than they are. Even on climate change, 41 percent think Biden is more liberal. By 43 to 40 percent, under 30 voters say they support the US “increasing domestic fossil fuel production.” And when given a choice of three energy policy pathways, these Gen Z voters have surprisingly moderate views. Just 29 percent think the best energy policy is “we should end the use of fossil fuels and switch exclusively to renewable energy sources,” while 63 percent favor “we should use an all-of-the-above strategy that includes fossil fuels and renewable energy sources” (another 8 percent believe “we should rely mostly on fossil fuels to power our economy”).'

    'The latter finding on energy pathways is consistent with much other recent data. In a 6,000 person survey by the American Enterprise Institute’s Survey Center on American Life (SCAL) respondents were asked about their preferences for the country’s energy supply. By 64 percent to 36 percent, Millennial/Gen Z (18-44 year old) voters favored, “Use a mix of energy sources including oil, coal and natural gas along with renewable energy sources,”.'

    These are very sensible policy positions. So why do some of the Left, and the OP presume that the Left is winning the culture war?
     
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    Maga is on the wrong side of history.
     
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    The only "sides" visible in this so-called war lack signs of genuine "culture".
     
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    I didn't say we're winning. I'm saying the right is losing. The war isn't against the left. It's a war against an invisible enemy that doesn't exist. And that's why they can't win it.

    The rest of us are just the audience who watch the spectacle MAGAs make of themselves, we laugh our asses off, and then progressives take advantage of the fools they make of themselves.

    This is why the slogan of the left is "Don't compare us to the almighty, compare us to the alternative". The left doesn't actually NEED to do anything. What they HAVE done is . All we need to do is point at the right and let people see how it self-implodes...

    You started the post by saying you didn't read the OP. If you want to understand what is really going on, you would HAVE to. Because if the right has a very very bad year (and the outlook is that they probably will), this will explain WHY.
     
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    Among youth that are interested in getting off the couch and voting, I would bet there are far more interested in stopping the flow of illegal invaders who compete for their livelihood than there are those pro-Palestine hate America types.
     
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    Lol at the premise of this thread. The left usually always wins culture wars because they always want to implement whats new and trending at the time and that is more in line with young folks. Most young folks are democrats. I was. All my friends were. It wasn't until the world of BILLS and RESPONSIBILITY happens that people wake the hell up and join the RIGHT party, however, that doesn't win culture wars because the left will always have the support of the young. The promise of EVERYTHING FREE is a tempting one for the youngins. Change the voting age to 40 (that's when most people have enough money to leave their parents basement under Bidenomics) and you would see way different stats.
     
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    You might be surprised at how little that matters. Maybe they lost classical liberals and libertarians, but they won almost every institution in the country; governments at all levels and corporations, not to mention the academy.

    What institution isn't under their control?
     
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    Huh? The left won educated people?

    That's ok. The right might still have a shot at the uneducated... But the number of their target groups appear to be shrinking.
     
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    What does this mean?
     
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    They want more prosperity and they want to be able to own homes and investments.
     
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