Why the right has no chance of winning the Culture Wars

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  1. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    The only thing I often see the left wanting to cram down anyone's throats are for people to be more inclusive and tolerant of others.

    DeSantis is a fine example of putting laws in place to stop people from being more tolerant and inclusive.
     
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    Gays to transition? That is a pretty odd post. Transition to what?
     
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    Clothes you've never intended on ever buying in your life time is there to change you?
    You know Target sells women's clothes also?
    Has that ever changed you? Have you ever became a woman? More tolerant or less tolerant of women?

    Can you see the odd stances people take on things like clothes? Which can never change anyone.
    Although, there is an old saying, clothes makes a person. But that is more in line with being a professional working class person.
    And the person has to believe that makes one more professional.

    I doubt a rainbow colored T shirt will make anyone not a trans person into a trans person.
     
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    Hmm... I know, you folks hate it when confronted with your own logic...
     
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    It does no such thing.
    Rights come from society. What they will grant and enforce. But for perhaps, the right to defend one's life.
     
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    So you don't know what the left wants gays to transition to? Have you seen how odd your post was? It makes ZERO sense. But for some reason you think gays will transition.
     
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    Where is anyone's religious freedom been taken away or tried to be taken away.
    I am not aware of any gov't making any religion illegal.
     
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    Irony with a dash of hypocrisy :)

    Them pesky definitions :) Maybe a quick review of your post over the last six weeks might spur a personal session of self reflection!

    Warning, mirrors may intensify overall effects of reality ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
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    Oh, the 'ole the "parties flipped" non-sense.

    The only thing that changed is southern Democrats lost their ability to enslave blacks, so now they generate a false narrative that blacks need them in power to protect them from racism and bigotry.

    At the end of the day, the Democrats are just using the African Americans to stay in power.

    That's the only thing that has changed.
     
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    I think the intolerance shown on college campuses to various types of bigoted speech by conservatives is a mistake. Better to have a debate so the origins of the hate they espouse can be exposed. Beyond that, and perhaps a few other anecdotal examples, the accusation that the Left is intolerant as compared to the Right is another attempt to turn the truth on its head.
     
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    The reasons why the left will win the Culture War are simple.

    1- No one likes to be told what to do in the privacy of their home. The Right can't stop pushing people away with their morality wars.
    2- The left offers free stuff. Free stuff beats all else. By the time the young people realize that the stuff wasn't free, it's too late.
     
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    Are you kidding? Have you been to most Universities lately? Academia has been poisoned with this kind of intolerance for decades now. Fortunately, it is the fostering of this ideology that just might bring the entire university system to its knees and it can be replaced by something that actually has as its main intention the education of young people instead of the pathetic indoctrination administered by fools and cowards.

    What was wrong? Where have you been? The deleterious effects the pandemic had on children alone will take decades to play out. Nearly EVERYTHING was wrong with the response because it was driven by authoritarian ideology. Maybe you need to read up on what happened.

    And the Spanish Flu was a completely different situation with a virus that was much more virulent.
     
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    The left has already lost the culture wars. People who can think even a little bit have figured this out.

    The problem isn't one of analysis, instead, the left has contaminated so many institutions over the last decades and taken advantage of the average soft Western adult who is having difficulty summoning up even a tiny bit of courage by standing up to all the non-sense and telling it like it is.

    The tide is turning and reason will prevail and another turd ideology will be flushed down the commode of history.
     
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    Where is this Right you are talking about? I am not ideological. Other than a few kooks here and there, where do you find these folks and what are they doing?
     
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    "Speech"? Where did you see the word "speech" anywhere in my post?

    Whenever I see somebody making up idiotic arguments and attributing them to me, instead of responding to what I DO say, I conclude that poster does not expect me to take them seriously.

    You asked a question, I answered. If you have anything to comment that addresses what I DID say, go for it. If not then.... thanks for playing...
     
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    What law/s are you referring to?
     
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    RonDon learned from the Orange Master that in Repub politics division and fear mongering works.
     
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    Never happened. That you believe it did is a testament to right wing media disinformation and your willingness to accept it without question. As an example, the NRA and RWM screamed about Obama "coming for your guns" while in reality........https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2010/01/brady_campaign_gives_obama_an.html
     
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    You have not heard any of the attacks on evangelical Christians, especially white ones??? The debate was right versus the left wanting to take away human rights, not government, although the left Government is involved with their forceful attack on our right to own and bear arms, and their support and participation to deny speech and expression of conservatives and Trump supporter for example.
     
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    Attacks for what? The liberals in government want to have a greater level of gun control, which most Americans agree we need. The "speech and expression" you speak of are lies which is why privately held companies monitor them in order to prevent the spread of disinformation.
     
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    One who wants to deny someone's speech always calls the speaker a liar.
     
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    There's a difference between gay and trans, please familiarize yourself with the difference before attempting these virtue signaling threads

    Last I checked, children don't really care about beer or commercials for it

    The bud lite thing had NOTHING to do with race. Is this just a lefty thing to put race in wherever it can fit? SAD!

    Last i checked, same sex marriage is LEGAL, again, research before posting, SHEESH!

    There is no such thing as MAGA extremism. Biden floats this term around to keep his base energized (sadly, democrats need something in common to HATE to get anything accomplished, if anything, they are the EXTREME ones.

    What rights do they not currently have? Why are they being grouped together? Blacks, gays, hispanics, women, all very different things. Why do you people group them together like they are pizza toppings? SAD!

    There's a reason why chik-filet has lines going down the street and it sure isn't because of WOKENESS, haha

    How can something RETURN that doesn't exist in the first place? Sheesh! You libs and your fantasy world. Are there dragons, unicorns and trolls in this fantasy world as well? Where are they all? Are they in imagination lad with the MAGA "extremists"??

    What is the relevance of that question? There will always be homosexuals (its nature's way of curbing the population). its a shame the libs wanna castrate and sterilize children when nature already has its own population control. Next time, DO YOUR RESEARCH FIRST and if you are gonna make fake claims about fake groups that don't exist (maga extremists) then show something to back it up and you'll need more than a riot that happened 3+ years ago.

    Cheers and do a little research next time please.

    Thank you!!
     
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    Wow! An expert on LGBTQ+ just tutored me on woke-speech.. Am I also not allowed to use gender pronouns?

    Though that is probably technically true (I don't remember seeing the ad), the point stands.

    BINGO!!!! I'm relieved that you understood the sarcasm! I don't think many right-wingers do. So we now are clear that this "boycott" is pure unadultered intolerance.

    Who said anything about it being "legal" or not?

    I didn't even know Biden used the term. I use it because it adequately describes the people I am referring to.

    The right to appear in beer commercials, for example.

    Mind you, people have ALL the rights. The fact that extremists are intent on stripping them of those rights is the issue.

    Because Christian Male White Supremacists feel more powerful when they group anybody who is not like them together.

    Or because of lack thereof.

    Because it proves the point I make in the OP.

    Ding ding ding ding! Right answer! MAGA-extremists seeking to "beat the gay" out of people are way more likely to become extinct 100 years from now. Even if they exist, they will the ones in the closet. Not gays.

    Oh! You are welcome!!!
     
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    No, I am not kidding.
    How many Universities have you been to lately? I am not aware of any University at present being brought to it's knees. Got a source for that? When was the last time there was violence on campus due to speech?

    Dead is a bigger wrong than kids who have fallen behind.
    Maybe you need to look at the bigger picture and find more than 1 source of information.
     
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    Really?
    Gay marriage is gone?
    Women's lib has been taken away?
    Jim Crowe laws have been reinstalled?
    Women have lost the right to vote?
    Slavery is coming back into fashion?

    Just what culture wars have the left lost?
     

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