WSJ: Trump colluding with Ukraine

If they're breaking the law, sure I do. Don't you?

 

You're going to have to explain what you mean, please, cuz I have no idea what you're talking about.

 

Don't forget to include The Following on that list. Because Pelosi wants more consensus before agreeing to impeach so Trump's cult of denial has some bearing on Trump's tenuously clinging to his position.

 

Not in this case. Trump has been dragged through enough harassment for made up crimes. Enough fishing expeditions.

 

Biden is very mum about this...wonder why? This could be the final nail in his coffin.

 

Spying on the President for the purpose of damaging the country isn't whistle blowing. It's treason. Snowden was exiled for whistle blowing. Phil Mudd is no Trump enthusiast, but he was livid that the Obama deep state was still spying on the President.

 

I think Pelosi takes the Trump threat to our democratic republic extremely seriously. She doesn't want to mess up impeachment, because BOTH parties have worked themselves into a situation wherein Trump has a lot of cards to play (e.g. the Unitary Presidency theory, the DoJ policy on non-indictment of a sitting President, Mitch McConnell, etc.). I suspect her "strategy" is an old one: "Give him enough rope and he'll hang himself." My impression of Trump is that he's "walked a line" most of his life between legality and illegality. When he inevitably crosses that line, he relies on an army of attorneys to bail-him out. And, apparently, his "business model" is not terribly different...stiffing contractors, various scams (Trump University, Trump Foundation), "shorting" investors, threatening to walk away from bank loans, etc. That may make you a hero in the world of TV reality shows, professional wrestling, beauty contests, and the entertainment press...but he's in way, way over his head on the Presidency...IMO.

 

What? So, you are saying that it's OK if he breaks the law? Do you understand that he's already breaking the law by blocking the whistleblower's complaint from going to Congress? If you want to stop the "harassment" maybe you should tell him to stop breaking the law? He gets himself into these messes.

 

Shades of Bengazi.

The image gets individual pieces of this assertion right -- Hunter Biden was a director of the company, and Joe Biden did leverage U.S. aid to fire a prosecutor. But it overreaches by assuming that Joe Biden acted to protect the company his son was affiliated with. In reality, there was widespread agreement in the West that the existing prosecutor had to go, and it’s not clear that the company would have benefited from his ouster anyway, given evidence that its cases had long been dormant.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-...-checking-joe-biden-hunter-biden-and-ukraine/

 

Watch for "juggling the time line." Get away with that and they can juggle cause and effect as well.

 

My comment was tongue in cheek. If Biden did something illegal, prove it and lock him up. Right now we have proof that Trump did something illegal. Talking about Biden to hide this fact is ridiculous. Not to mention dishonest and anti-patriotic.

 

What proof do you have that trump did anything illegal? Mueller, Dems in congress and even a British spy paid for by the dnc have investigated for years and all you all got was a made up dossier

 

So you are using the MSM vehicle of Projecting Guilt from Joe
Biden and son { Abuse or Power and Obstruction of Justice and
Extortion } onto Trump ...
Again.

 

You cannot be this clueless.What part of Biden's Proud Big Mouth
CONFESSION did you not hear.He even cursed " well son of a B!tch "
It's On YouTube with Council on Foreign Relations backdrop.

 

Mudd forgot that the "whistleblower" didn't report his/her complaint to Congress...but to the IG for the DNI organization...an IG appointed by Trump. It was the IG who determined the information was both urgent and critical, NOT the whistleblower. Mudd offered the alternative of resignation to whistleblowers, but by law, that is not necessary and, of course, we don't know that that is not what happened, both Dan Coats and his career assistant (can't think of her name at the moment) resigned about the same time. It may have been one or both of them? Mudd was the brilliant CIA Analyst between 1999 and 2001. Presumably, is expert analysis is what led George Tenent to declare to Bush: "It's a slam dunk, Mr. President." He's the epitome of the "successful career bureaucrat" who doesn't leak and just follows orders.
The whistleblower needn't have been "spying" on the President, but simply doing their job, in listening to or reading a subsequent classified transcript of the conversation. Whatever he or she heard or read alarmed them enough to go to the IG with it and the IG made the determination regarding whether to pass it to Congress and/or begin an internal investigation.

 

It was not a Whistleblower because the guy didn't report using
protocol.He wasn't reporting anything Illegal or Improper by President
Trump.It was done in an attempt to Project Blame onto Trump that
HE was the center of a Scandal.When anyone with half a brain could
understand how Big a Scandal it was for " Lunch Pail Joe ".
The MSM and the whistleblower are trying to Make Trump the
Scandal.Same basic plot they used with the Russian Collusion
Narrative.Hillary and her DNC used a Russian agent to dig up
dirt { any scuttlebutt will do } on Trump and Campaign to Influence
an Election.Witch also explains Hillary's responding yesterday that
it proves Trump tried to Influence an Election.
A Reversal of Fortune.Only Biden stays rich by attacking Trump.
Standard ploy by a Corrupted Mainstream media in league with
a dishonest Unamerican Political Party { Democrat }.
Who are almost yelling for Open Borders and eliminating ICE.

 

Investigate him then. You have to understand, we don't feel about Biden (or anyone) like you guys do about Trump. We care about the policies, not the person. We're perfectly capable of jettisoning a politician who we think has crossed the line. Ask Al Franken.

 

Trump's political intent was criminal.

 

Conveniently omitted by the president are the facts that (a) the whistleblower has tried to comply with federal law and go through government channels rather than leaking information to the Trump-hostile media; (b) the IGIC to whom the whistleblower made his report is a Trump appointee, namely Michael Atkinson, a career Justice Department prosecutor who got the IGIC gig in 2018; and (c) Atkinson concluded that the whistleblower’s complaint was credible and sufficiently serious to be deemed a matter of “urgent concern.”
https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/09/trump-whistleblower-claim-congress-should-investigate/

 

It was President Trump who did the right thing ... AGAIN by using
His lawyer Giuliani Investigate in seeking answers as to what
" Lunch Pail Joe " was all so hot and bothered about { as he confessed }
concerning Some Ukrainian General Prosecutor investigating his
Son Hunter's Natural Gas firm.
Schiff probably knew all along who the Whistleblower{s} were.
The Whistleblower was used to turn the Tables on Trump as if
HE is guilty of something.Same basic ploy as used in the
Russian Collusion Hoax.
This is Entirely a :
Joe Biden Scandal

 

Nobody even remotely believes that.
Trump has every right to confer,seek advice and give advice
as POTUS to heads of state.
What IS Happening is another Historic First.Like Obama's
use of a Deep State to Frame a candidate and then President.
The Mainstream media is now feverishly either Ignoring the
real Scandal of Joe Biden openly Confessing what he did
WHILE trying to paint Trump out to be the bad guy { criminal }.
So expect this Lying,Cheating,Hoax MSM to either continue to
Ignore Biden's Obvious criminality or paint Trump as setting a new
low in an attempt to besmirch the reputation of his number one
rival for the 2020 Presidential race.
It won't flush.Because we have Direct,unequivocal words of guilt
by " Lunch Pail Joe ". So Biden is now left to lying further { saying
he won't comment on something No news outlet has mentioned }.
However the N.Y.Times did bring it up Joe.
Biden is also left with defending the case he was right in
being part of the Judiciary gang that besmirched Supreme Court
Nominee Clarence Thomas Big Time.
This kinda crapoloa will never be acceptable no matter how Goofy
all the 202o Democratic Candidates appear.

 

Which laws were broken? Site them.

 

Just ask yerself ... What was Hunter Biden being paid { $ 83,000 a month}
since 2014 for.Hunter Biden had no background in Ukraine or
in energy or natural gas.Plus Hunter Biden was going around the
world using his Father's V.P. status to cut deals and make moola.
We're talkin' financial transactions with Kazakh oligarchs where money
is going from Swiss Bank accounts to the Vice President of the United
States son.
Anyone with half a brain tied behind their back knows that doesn't
appear above board and Should at least be Investigated.
Or as ace journalist Peter Schweizer commented.Just change the name
from Hunter to Don jr. or Eric as in Trump.It's that disgustingly obvious.

 

No question at all that Joe Biden's Confession is an
Obvious example of Obstructing of Justice.In addition his threatening to
withdraw On his Own Authority a Billion dollars in U.S. aid
is also proof of the Quid Pro Quo.