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Discussion in 'Latest US & World News' started by Striped Horse, Jul 16, 2018.

  1. Poohbear

    Poohbear Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Don't generalize. Never met a full-on Trump supporter who agreed with everything
    he did or said. It's more nuanced than that.
    For instance many in middle America felt that the Clinton/Trump campaign was a Hobson's
    Choice for them.
    And they are right to feel that their country has declined since the 1960's and the wold has
    taken America for a fool (particularly the Chinese.)
    Unfortunately Trump will only make matters worse.
     
  2. Mandelus

    Mandelus Well-Known Member

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    Interesting ... so it's perfectly normal America to be hypocritical ... for example, to curse evil Iran by all instances for applying the Sharia case law with the bestial punishments, but to be completely blind to the fact that dear Saudi Arabia is what yes such a great friend is exactly the same with the Sharia?
     
  3. Pycckia

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    I think most people are well aware that Saudi Arabia follows Sharia law. What makes you think otherwise?
     
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    Poohbear Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It aint that simple. America itself also has judicial killing, but that isn't the
    primary issue. There's the embassy hostage issue; the threat against
    US ally Israel, Islamic fundamentalism, strategic threats to the Middle
    East, the constant lying about the nuclear issue, support for terrorism etc..
    Saying, for instance, that Iran is a threat for its nuclear weapons is true,
    but it isn't the whole story.
     
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  6. Mandelus

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    Because on the subject of Sharia only the Iran is berated. If somebody else heads off in Iran because of Sharia, Iran gets insulted ...
    If someone is beheaded in Saudi Arabia a week later for using the Sharia, that does not interest anyone in the US ... or at least far lesser than the execution in Iran. I call it hypocritical, do you call it too?
     
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    I know ...
    But since you come with the topic of embassy occupation and the hostage-taking ... you also know that the whole truth was not even said in the US and many do not want to have it true?
    The Shah and his regime ... who were everything, but not a democracy ... were brought to power by the United States at that time through a US-initiated and financed coup and then massively supported ... also what the oppression of the population and every opposition. The Iranian domestic intelligence service was massively trained and supported by the CIA in suppressing opposition
    It is funny, by the way, that the Shah made the same evil game as Saddam or even Assad, because minorities were protected and pampered by him, as they took as a thank, then senior positions in his regime and actively support it in the suppression. As I said, Saddam. or does not Assad have it any other way ... do you remember the Foreign Minister of Saddam, Tariq Aziz? He was a Christian, a minority in Iraq.

    And then came the revolution, which brought Khomeini to power and the Shah had to flee. Little is known that the CIA organized a counter-coup here from the embassy to bring the Shah back to power (example source: Professor Francis Boyle). This is just as illegal and a misuse of the embassy status as the subsequent occupation and hostage taking ... only that one does not want to have true in the USA!
     
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    All the excesses of Sharia interest the Islamophobes in the US, I assure you, whether they be in Iran, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, or elsewhere. It is all grist for the mill.

    It may be different among the general public, I suppose. But they only know what the MSM tell them and the MSM's hypocrisy in many areas is well known.
     
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    If most americans are deeply aware of it, why the outrage and histrionics so widespread when Trump spoke the truth regarding his mistrust of our intelligence agencies? I'm only guessing, but judging from the reaction in the MSM, most americans are freaking out because POTUS does not trust the intelligence agencies.

    Regarding that mistrust voiced by POTUS, is he echoing what we learned from Jesse Ventura regarding what HE learned about the role of the CIA in state governments when he served as Minnesota government?
     
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    Somebody is beheaded in Islamic lands quite often, and most of these do not make news and are unknown. And the elite leaders of the West want people who have the religion upon which these beheadings are based to immigrate into their countries in large numbers.

    Suicide.
     
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    It is perfectly normal for people in every country to be hypocritical. It is a common human weakness. I shouldn't have to tell you that.
     
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    I don't spend a lot time opining about matters in the UK. Last time I was there was decades ago. I too am disqualified.
     
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    This excuses what Putin did--hacking private emails and spreading lies through our social media?

    P.S. Send my regards to Putin when you get together with your handler.
     
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    Trump lies, so how is that good? His obvious, shameless would/wouldn't lie yesterday reminds me of Slick Willie Clinton telling us what the meaning of "is" is.
    Hey, how about the Bloviator-in-Chief telling the truth? Wouldn't that be nice?
     
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    The reaction of the US MSM is similar to the BBC in Britain, the CBC in Canada, and ABC in Australia. Whenever these media address anything political their bias is clear and should be ignored. They're all much better at human interest stories and farm reports than anything political. The problem is that people grow up with them and come to trust them..
    Jesse may not be the best go to guy when searching for truth but I've no doubt, as with the FBI, there are bad apples there as well. It's inevitable in any group of human beings.
     
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    It's too difficult to take you seriously when you use terms like "Bloviator-in-Chief". It's schoolyard stuff.
     
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    Then don't take me seriously. No need to reply to my posts, either.

    The guy is a disgrace to his office.
     
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    And to think I had earlier concluded that you were above such daft pettiness exhibited in your PS....
     
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    Interesting view ...
    And so everything is fine and it can be babbled an infinite amount of BS ...
    The US blames Russia for intervening in the 2016 election, but the fact that the US has intervened countless times in other elections does not matter.

    You know, when I read such a silly statement, I sincerely hope that by 2020 not only Russia but many more will not only chop the elections for you, because you seem to understand your mendacity only in the painful way!
     
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    Please criticize what I write, not what you thought I wrote. I have never suggested that any country is right in messing with other coutries' elections, even the U.S. I don't know where you got that idea but I think we were talking about Russian meddling in a U.S. election. If you would like to discuss efforts of the U.S. to influence elections in other countries, help yourself. I never brought it up.

    I can't think of anything more anti american than your wish that the Russian succeed in affecting our 2020 elections. I'm not influenced by anti americanism. Go bother someone who is.
     
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    Do you enjoy discussing the US activities in influencing elections in other countries, or would you rather not?
     
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