Yup, another indictment.

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  1. Nemesis

    Nemesis Well-Known Member

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    "Source" means "where did you get it". That's easily available.
     
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    He could of filed these charges 2 years ago. Seems he is in the process of securing a trial that would be ongoing during the 2024 election and not so speedy that it is completed before the election.
     
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    It was either 7 minutes before the Capitol perimeter was breached or 53 minutes after.

    2:38 p.m. Trump tweets.

    “Please support our Capitol Police and Law Enforcement. They are truly on the side of our Country. Stay peaceful!”
    What Donald Trump has said about the Capitol rioters - The Washington Post

    while Trumps tweet says it was 1:38. 1:45 the perimeter was breached, 2:12 they went in the Capitol
     
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    Then you’re saying Trump and his clowns could figure out how to bring a solid case in 2 years or more. “All hat; no cattle”.
     
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    Nope you said that here is what I ask and you refuse to address

    Which votes was he talking about finding it's not complicated.



    Which Trump was requesting. Copy and paste the pargraph where he commits crime. And ll those cases were tossed for lack of standing nit on the merits even if there were any. They never made it to a trial.
     
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    Let me figure out what you’re saying.
    “Nope you said”
    Maybe I did.

    “you said that here”
    Where?

    “you said that here is what I asked”
    No I didn’t.

    “you refuse to address”
    What did I refuse to address?

    What votes are not complicated? Or is that a run-on sentence lacking proper punctuation?

    Is there more than one? Junior? Ivanka?

    Ok, that I can decipher. You’re telling me that Trumps attorneys and his henchmen and all his advocates who brought the issues of “election theft” (which never happened in 2020) couldn’t (I made a typo above) figure out how to bring a solid case in 2 years or more. They couldn’t figure out how to navigate the system to win what they said was so obvious. They didn’t find a way to get it to the RW supreme court to save their ass. And yet you still want us to believe the accusation is legitimate when it is the most corrupt thing in any election we’ve ever seen.

    You’re fooling no one.


    Oh, and your keyboard has a period on it for a reason.
     
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    At some point, Presidential authority must be subjected to limitations. Some laws are too important to allow exceptions. For Trump to brag that he could commit murder in public view in Times Square without repercussions makes it clear that he considers himself to be above the law in all cases.

    All government officials are considered PUBLIC servants, meaning that they SERVE the general public as a collective, not that they are free to do anything they wish.

    Power without constraints in an extremely dangerous.
     
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    It's too little, too late. He had alresdy incited them, and barely lifted a finger. "Oh, don't do violence and stuff" doesn't cut it after they're let out out of the asylum. Besides, the weasel wasn't charged for inciting an insurrection
     
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    A lot of the witnesses were not available early on.
     
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    "To facilitate the efficient production of discovery to the defense, the Government proposed a reasonable protective order consistent with current practice in this District," the special counsel's team wrote. "To safeguard witness privacy and the integrity of these proceedings, the Court should enter the Government's proposed protective order."

    In contrast, the special counsel argued, Trump's proposed protective order "would lead to the public dissemination of discovery material."

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/proposed-...trumps-free-speech-lawyers/story?id=102084393

    Discovery material is provided to the defense for the purpose of aiding them to prepare their case in court. Not aiding them in trying to plea their case to the public. There is nothing unusual about what the government is proposing. What's unusual is having someone with a huge megaphone and legal team violating the rules.
     
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    Yup. The Orange Dingleberry wants to poison the potential jury pools, and also try the case on crazy RW media.

    "BBBBBbbut what about my 1st Amendment rights?"
     
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    Everything relevant they have witnessed has been reported in the media.
     
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    ??? The prosecution has been feverishly doing that from the appointment of Jack Smith. The mainstream media has worked diligently to support that effort.
     
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    Im the one who said

    referring to incitement of insurrection
     
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    Umm, no. That’s not true. Mark Meadows is just one witness that Smith compelled to testify. Pence too.
     
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    This Is Exactly What Trump’s Game Of Delay, Delay, Delay Is Going To Look Like

    I will warn you now that you are likely to be exhausted, worn out, or numbed to the Trump prosecutions well before they reach trial. It is part and parcel of Trump’s strategy to delay his personal reckoning for as long as possible in the hopes that he wins the 2024 election and misuses the powers of the presidency to make the prosecutions of himself go away.

    We can talk in hypotheticals about the slow-rolling, the endless motions practice, the political talking points masked as legal arguments, the failure to address let alone deny the substance of the charges against him, but until you start to see it play out in court, it’s hard to understand what a grinding, tedious, inane process this is going to be.

    But we certainly have a glimpse of it now. Over the course of past five days, Trump’s legal team has managed to make a mountain out of the molehill that is a routine protective order covering discovery materials. It’s just a taste of what is to come.

    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/morning-memo/trump-delay-legal-strategy

    This is when the base has the power to crush Trump's hope of delaying accountability by ending support for his candidacy.
     
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    How so?
     
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    Jack Smith wasn't even installed as a Special Counselor until November of 2022, so it's highly unlikely he could have filed the charges in 2021
     
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    The Orange Incontinent wants witnesses to be intimidated too.
     
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    He could have used a DeLorean and drove it at 88 mph to go back in time.
     
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    Trump supporters can't even get basic facts like this right but we are supposed to trust them when they tell us that the "Judicial Watch vs. NARA" court case allows a President to classify what are clearly "Presidential Records" as "Personal Records"

    They can't read an indictment and see the evidence that has been presented but they are suddenly legal scholars when it comes to interpreting the Presidential Records Act.
     
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