Zimmerman Trial (Friday July 12th) ~ Continued MOD ALERT

They didn't want a list of emotions? Hmmm.......

 

I agree. The Trayvonites racism has been disgusting.

 

Experts have no clue. The Jury has all the evidence, but apparently they needed a catalog to more easily find stuff. I would have thought one would be automatic, as everything gets a sequential number assigned.

But if I had to guess, there is one juror who is not agreeing on a certain point, where others are saying "it is in evidence" or some such. So they need to find what someone or someones believe is in evidence. Only takes one white-guilt lib on the jury to really slow things down.

 

Right, maybe they are looking for something specific. They have quite a few items, maybe something they think is important they can't find?!?!?

 

The Feds intervene all the time ... from serial-killers to domestic terrorists to raciss hate-groups

 

Or one gun crazed nutter...

 

Hopefully they can keep theirs in check and they already saw the State's ...

 

Except that that was a COMPLETE LIE. The only KNOWN RACIST involved was Martin.

 

This is BS. Woulda-shoulda-coulda don't count. The Law is what counts. Trayvon assaulted George. That is where culpability begins.

 

Maybe they want the list bulleted with emoticons ... LOL.

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Martin is dead ... and he didn't have chance in killing Zimmy with a bag of candy and soda.

 

Nope, GZ was well within his rights to talk on his cell phone, call the police, exit his vehicle in the presence of a minority, walk in his neighborhood, and to even walk up to TM and asking what he was up to. None of that is negligent or illegal. TM had no right to attack GZ based on the evidence presented at trial and he had four minutes to walk a few doors down from the T. He chose not to.

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Is there a Bernie rant smiley?

 

Don't forget the cement.

 

Don,

Did Trayvon have the right to feel threatened by George and Stand His Ground.

Remeber that was originally Zimmy's defense before he realized he could be liable to a civil suit...
Something to ponder.

 

Yes Martin had the intent to use a sidewalk to kill Zimmy in a racisss killing ....

 

I can't see them asking for a list if they were currently unanimous. Doesn't mean they are divided yes-no. Just could have a Doubting Thomas that needs more effort to be moved along. On the upside, it would indicate that one entity is asserting something is in evidence, and another not remembering it that way. One will be right, and one not.

 

[video=youtube;CjRp-vIvTNg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjRp-vIvTNg&feature=player_detailpage#t=25 77s[/video]

43:00 minute mark

As Zimmerman says in this interview, his extended left arm was in the way. He had to pull towards him a bit to be able to fire the shot into the chest.
The shot was fired at a 90 degree angle meaning from the shape of a T with the downward pointing line being the arm and the top ot the letter being the way Martin was positioned for those who don't know what 90 degrees happens to be.
As you see in his immediate recall, he shows his left arm in a gripping motion as if grabbing a shirt.
He changes the story shortly after saying a hand was over his mouth but if he was being suffocated with Martin putting all his weight over him, his elbows would be extended out as Zimmerman would be swinging his head side to side.

Also, if Martin was on top suffocating him and his arms were on Martin trying to take his arms off, how is he so accurate that his jacket came up with his head pinned to the ground where he couldn't see his jacket.

Also, how did Martin move to a position that allowed him to fire a T angled shot based on body position.

Martin's shirt was also extended at least 4 inches from his body

That shows Martin was in position of being detained

 

This is taking too long.

 

Black Panthers steadily gathering outside courthouse ....

 

Yep.

It is.

 

If GZ attacked him. I don't believe that was proven at trial.

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Yep, they probably picked a forewoman and voted. Now, they are going to look at the evidence line by line.

 

Also, the next morning Zimmy showed the cops how he reached with his right arm to his right-side butt and shot Martin with his right arm ... he did this while Martin was raining blows and smothering him.

But this was an *irrelevant & minor inconsistency* because Zimmy had life-threatening wounds.

 

He says his hand was up by TM's which was on his face.

 

Hopefully Don will render his opinion, but I'll give it a whack, and hope that you wil respond to the questions that I raise back at you as well.

You need to read the SYG Statute. It is not just how Trayvon may have felt, but what would have been reasonable to feel. Further, SYG is not about just standing there. SYG is about responding with force to an imminent threat, where one had an opportunity to retreat, but is deemed to have not an obligation to retreat.

Essentially, George would have had to assault Trayvon. Or pull his gun on him. The former is without basis in anything, much less common sense, and if the latter, George isn't holding his gun for 40 seconds of being pummeled, finally getting off a shot.

To your second point. SYG was never George's Defense. Self Defense was. It was the leftwads and the Press that tried to make this an SYG issue.

Now, after you read the Statute, can you tell us what happened that would have given Trayvon the right to stand his ground ?