Zimmerman Trial (Tuesday July 9th.) MOD ALERT

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  1. SourD

    SourD New Member Past Donor

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    nobody can touch this guy's expertise and credentials.
     
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    In order for your post to have any merit, one must assign some level of culpability to just minding one's own business, which both were doing up until an assault began. And frankly, what you assign as culpable events are not that at all. Those events were George was acting in his own best interests, while breaking no law, much less violating anyone's rights.

    I am not much for analogies, but your logic is such that if someone goes to run an errand on a rainy day, and then is killed by a drunk driver, that the victim should have known that it was unwise to drive in the rain.
     
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    Yeah yeah yeah I get it.If Zimmerman stayed home that night this never would have
    happened.If Trayvon wasn't out on school suspension this never would have happened.
    Because he would have been in Miami { where his school is } NOT Sanford.
    Coulda woulda shoulda.
    How about the biggest woulda ... If Trayvon only woulda been a White.
    We've never be here with this Trial.
    Or maybe if only Zimmerman was a black..
    Same doggone thingy.
     
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    I don't see any evidence that Zimmerman was racist. He followed Martin because of his own overdeveloped self conceptions about his role as neighborhood watch coordinator, and I would guess he'd have followed anybody that night who cut through people's yards, and was looking like they didn't have a clear destination in the neighborhood.
     
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    Rasmussen's latest poll involved race.
    he found that Blacks consider themselves more racist than white.
    The Rasmussen poll found Blacks consider themselves More Racist than Whites.
     
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    <<< MODERATOR EDIT: OFF TOPIC >>>

    The animation has apparently been watered down, and I can only speculate as to what it will, and will not, illuminate. I believe it will certainly show to two entities while on the ground, and then the view as seen from the vantage point of all witnesses. I believe it can also map the possible angle of the gun-shot, and then rotate around to show how the gun could have been held by Zimmerman to achieve the shot within a cone of possibilities.

    I would hope that they illuminate the range of area that Trayvon could have traversed in his unaccounted four minutes, vs. the actual 90-100 feet net that he did traverse.
     
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    Gun against clothing and clothing was 2 to 4 inches away from skin.
     
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    Martin's friend ("Dee Dee") did not explicitly say George was the aggressor. In fact, her testimony is that Martin initiated first contact (I don't mean physically) with George.

    The testimony of John Good leaves a reasonable person with one simple conclusion....that Trayvon Martin was on top of George in full mount and reigning down blows on him, and that Trayvon Martin refused to stop his attack when confronted by John Good.
     
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    This expert witness is awesome. His knowledge is fascinating. He used living animals to do experiments on gunshots...PETA won't be happy about that.

    He does a great job of explaining the technicalities to the jury.
     
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    He experimented on bullet wound patterns by shooting live animals. :gun:
     
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    Hope he had the permission of the animal owners ................................ :cool:
     
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    Nobody can fill in the blanks except George Zimmerman. That why there can't be a conviction.
     
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    I think the post you responded to has plenty of merit. And ven though I think Zimmerman will be acquitted, you can bet the farm that the thoughts expressed by Trumanp will cross the minds of the jury.

    My problem is that I'm a gun safety nut. My friends and I go shooting out on the edge of national forrest land and we go by the book. We communicate about cleared weapons, hot weapons, not sweeping anybody, etc....and the few friends that have concealed weapons permits are constantly careful about the differences in how you handle certain situations while armed, or unarmed.

    If you are a whimp, you will not be made safe by a gun. There is only one part of the Zimmerman case that still has me bugged, even though I'd vote to acquit...and that is the inconsitencies in Zimmerman's actions, and not his testimony, because it's unusual for people to be both brave, and whimpy, in a confrontation.

    Usually the whimps wouldn't walk off into the darkness where a suspicious person is, nor would they have the gonads to shoot.

    Brave people wouldn't go limp as a rag doll as soon as the fight starts, and cry like a baby.

    Maybe Zimmermen is that anomoly.
     
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    Bullet trajectory: Left to right.....not a precisely straight shot.....sorry trayvonites another myth busted.
     
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    Trajectory went from TM's left to right - not a perfect straight in shot "not precise." There goes another GZ hater's theory down in flames.
     
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    Wow...we agree on something. :omg:
     
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    The entire reason that Al Shaprton isn't running around like a peanut vendor at
    the ballpark insisting that everybody need to buy his latest bag of racist charges
    is simple.Eric Holder called in his DOJ { the FBI } to investigate Zimmerman.
    It was done with secrecy.Because DOJ had no credible authority to use the FBI
    in a local law enfordement manner due to race involved.
    The FBI ran intense searaches into Zimmerman past and came up dry.
    NO history or tendency to be Racist.In fact,the opposite was found.
    He menotored Minority { black } kids.He went out on a limb,to take up for
    a homeless person { a Black Man } who was unfairly beaten down by the Sanford
    police.Zimmerman defended a Black man over the Cops version of what went down.
    So Obviously Zimmerman could never be credibly proven to be any Racist.
    And trust me on this ... If there was One drop of Racism in Zimmerman's blood,
    Al Sharpton would have found it and made commercials about.
     
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    Expert confirms forensics consistent with George's statement about being on the ground.
     
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    there it is, evidence consistent with Z's testimony. Martin on top.
     
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    "Consistent with Mr. Zimmerman's account" - repeated by this excellent witness multiple times.
     
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    <<< MODERATOR EDIT: OFF TOPIC QUOTE AND REPLY DELETED >>>

    The logistics in this case are all that has ever mattered to me.

    Racism, Trayvon's past, who was screaming, George's weight, and all that other stuff hasn't influenced my opinion.
     
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    Bullet ... schmullet.I'd ruther use a buggy whip to bag me some Mutton.
     
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    Here comes the part where TM's arms ended up underneath him. He was still alive and moved them there himself. Another myth busted about Z lying.
     
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    What part of Trayvon confronted him and George is even heard lowering his voice to give his address because he didnt want T to know where he lived? Are those the actions of someone who wants to fight? How many other suspects did George call in , in his neighborhood and then get into a physical altercation with? Where is the history of him being a forceful presence? If you are a whimp you wont be made safe by a gun? What? There is not one shred of evidence that shows George started a physical fight, just the opposite.
     
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