Zimmerman Trial (Wednesday July 3rd.) ~see OP warning~ Continued

Why would Martin's DNA be found on the gun?

 

Trayvon bolted off and then doubled back and ambushed George.
Unless you believe the bilge that Trayvon was " just walkig home ".
That doesn't even come close to adding up.
That would mean that George would have to have Run Down Trayvon
and confrionted Trayvon,then punched himself in the face and dragged
Trayvon back to the spot where he allowed Trayvon to get onto of him to
make for a fair fight.

 

Lesser charges are only included if the Judge instructs the jury of such. No guarantee that will happen.

 

Zimmerman says he grabbed it. Another lie.

 

Only in the book his friend wrote.

 

It has already been proven in the court of law they are having that Travon's jacket was a hands width separated from his chest and offsetted, like it would be if he was bent over over Zimmerman at the time of the shooting. Why do you liberals continue blindly lying about this (*)(*)(*)(*) you can't actually believe the (*)(*)(*)(*) you prattle?

 

"grabbed at it" does not mean he actually touched it. Yes, another lie, but from you.

 

It was raining and Z washed the blood off. The dummies didn't use Luminol on the flashlight.

 

I'm not your Huckleberry. I live down here. This exact topic has been discussed many times. Other posters have confirmed it in past dialogues, where they did not believe me, but then were shown the truth.

This was so easy to find. I cannot fathom how you tried for (*)(*)(*)(*).

 

Now we're talking.It's up to the Judge in the final phase of Jury instruction.
Tell that to what's his name.

 

Nope it is now confirmed fact Zimmerman was caught in a lie.

 

The bullet also traveled from point of impact on the mid left to the right, across the heart and right lung suggesting it was not a straight on shot.

 

False. Already documented. Manslaughter is include in M2 here.

 

I don't think you can get DNA from finger prints or sweat.
Zimmerman said he thought Trayvon was reaching for his gun. That means a hand went in the general direction as the gun and doesn't mean it had to actually touch the gun. Your not paying a whole lot of attention to the facts.

 

I'm sure the defense has a plausible explanation once it commences it's case.

 

I do believe you are wrong, they only brought one charge, M2. It is only included if the Judge includes it.

 

Are you saying that Z couldn't have grabbed the jacket while shooting TM?

 

I think George said he went for the gun and his buddy, who was trying to sell a book, said he grabbed it.

But then I've been listening the the trial not reading the synopsis on ABC so I don't know.

 

What does " The Jury will CERTAINLY have the Jury instruction " supposed to mean.
So it's a Certainty in yer mind.That written statement sounds like someones opinion.
Not at all mine.We've already seen this Judge make decisions that
hinder the defense and hugely help the state.

 

You have a weak grasp of reality.

 

Read the last part about jury proceedings.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesser_included_charge

 

Are you serious? Z was stalking TM like TM was an animal. How would TM know if Z was armed and, if, so, how would he know where Z had his gun? It was dark and raining.

The only way TM would have attempted to grab Z's gun was when Z grabbed his jacket as Z was pulling the trigger.

 

Zimmerman's words (12:12 mark):

"So I tried to squirm off the concrete.
So when I did that, somebody here opened the door (John Good).
Then I said help me, help me.
Then he said I will call 911.
I said no, help me, I need help and I don't know what they did.
That when my jacket moved up and I had my side arm, my firearm on my right side hip.
My jacket moved up and he saw it, well I feel like he saw it.
Then he said 'You are going to die tonight motherf**ker.'
Then he reached for it, well I felt like he reached for it cause I felt his arm go down my side.
Then I grabbed it, I grabbed my sidearm and I shot him."


As you see, he never stated he was screaming for help, he say he saw John Good and asked for help securing Martin. You should also notice his statement indicates he was in control at the time. Read the words.

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The tugging of the shirt would indicate a dog attack originally.

John Good "It seemed like a tussle, they were vertical to me just like the blinds in my window were.
Then at one point, I yelled out, 'What's going on and stop it I believe."

Prosecuter: How long did you have one foot out. Was it seconds, was it minutes.

John Good: "Seconds."

Prosecuter: Ask about being more specific

John Good: "A few seconds."

At 11:31
Prosecuter: Could you tell if it was one or two people upon stepping out?

John Good: "I couldn't tell at that time "

13:18 mark
John Good on the shifting movement: "It was quick, as I said I only seen at most 10 seconds of everything. It could be as little as 2 or 3 seconds."


15:11 mark
John Good on why he felt it was serious: "Because it looks like strikes being thrown or punches being thrown. But as I clarified, due to the lighting (conditions). It could also be holding down but there were arm movement gong downward."

15:50
Could John Good see that person's hands: "No, just appendages."

17:11
Prosecuter: "What do you recall saying?"

John Good: "At first it was "What's going on" and no one answered."
"The person on the bottom, I could finally see, they yelled "Help."
"Then at some point I yelled "Cut it out," then a yelled "I'm going to call 911" when I thought it was getting really serious."

As you see, Zimmerman and Good both point to a time when Zimmerman asked for help during the 2-8 seconds Good stepped out the door.
If he is that calm and precise about when he was asked for help, would he have stated he was constantly yelling for help
Zimmerman's defense team likes to walk through a made up story but as you see in Good's first statements, his MMA style statement would actually have to be false information as he clearly states he did not see any punches..

 

Where did you get that quote of me ... nobody here would believe I would say that.

 

This isn't a death penalty Trial.For starters.
Capital Punishment means facing the death penalty.Zimmerman faces
25 years to Life in Prison.Way short of Death.