George Zimmerman Is In Legal Trouble Again

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  1. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    Where did you get the idea that the DOJ "could find nothing" in it's investigation of Zimmerman? There is a huge difference between finding nothing and finding enough evidence to prosecute for the civil rights violation. Millions of civil rights violations occur every year that are not prosecuted.

    It was not the word but the context in which it was used. In Zimmerman's statement he used it to address a "black teenager" and that made it racial stereotyping that even others arguing on Zimmerman's behalf admit. They state that Zimmerman followed Martin based upon racial stereotyping because another black teenager had been arrested for break-ins in the neighborhood. Stereotyping a person based upon race is racism and that is exactly what everyone admits Zimmerman did in making the determination that an innocent black teenager walking in the neighborhood was there for nefarious criminal purposes. Zimmerman, based upon his racial stereotyping, would not have followed a white teenager in the neighborhood that night.
     
  2. JavisBeason

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    no, we don't admit that.... describing a suspicious person to police,


    black is a key physical description of someone when you are trying to give cops info.... and not racial profiling. I see you still can't grasp the difference between racial profiling and criminal profiling.
     
  3. JavisBeason

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    racial profiling....


    calling the cops on this kid walking in the rain at night in your neighborhood

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    but not this kid

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    or not calling the cop on these kids walking around at night, in the rain.....
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    but calling the cops on this kid

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  4. Bluesguy

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    Is that you don't know if he wouldn't have gone back to the car to confront Zimmerman there.

    The girl friend, the transcripts, the EVIDENCE.

    Yes demonstrating yours with mine.

    Yes it does as I posted you the definition of the word. That some chases don't end up with the person being caught does not change that fact nor does it prove Zimmerman ever had an intention to catch Marting.

    The fact remains Martin ran back to the house having lost the person who had been watching him, the incident was over. All he had to do was go inside the apartment and plop his butt on the couch and watch the basketball game. He walked the length of two apartment buildings back to the T junction where he confronted Zimmerman.

    THAT was proven in court, your baseless conjecture does not refute it.
     
  5. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluesguy View Post
    So that gave Martin license to kill him, how absurd.

    How did that give him license to assault Zimmerman and attempt to induce serious bodily harm or even death?

    So if I see a suspicious person walk by my house and I call the NEN number and while talking to them step out to the street to see which way they turn at the corner that person has a right to come back and kill me because I set the event in motion? What absurdity you continue to engage in.
     
  6. Bluesguy

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    It's still going on in spite of the fact the FBI saying they could find no evidence of racism. Two years and Holder will not announce the findings or shut it down leaving Zimmerman in limbo.

    There is also a presumption of innocence especially when there is no evidence.

    What is your evidence Zimmerman was a racist?

    The behavior was profiled and your statement he wouldn't have followed a white teenager is nothing more than desperate supposition based on your own prejudice.
     
  7. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    What you don't buy was proven in court so your not buying does not refute the facts. But are you admitting now that 180lb Wilson had a right to defend himself against 290lb Brown because according to you he wouldn't have stood a chance?
     
  8. JavisBeason

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    funny how facts inconvenient to the story are ignored when it doesn't fit the agenda.


    Z injuries were covered up by the left, because it told a better story, but when it did come out he had a busted nose and head wounds.... people just ignored it...


    I love how SBB thinks size ALWAYS wins fights.... and claims "life experience" as reasoning.


    sure size helps.... and most times is enough.... but having trained with 15 y.o.'s with trayvon's build and size when I was 25... and despite being an allstate wrestler myself in my prime at 18.... I had nothing on that kid... He threw me around like a rag doll, did things no wrestler should do like reaching back, rolling thrhoug his back, etc.... and beating me while doing it. It was very humbling to me. I should have been able to whip his butt but he was too athletic
     
  9. superbadbrutha

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    Well we know that he didn't and you don't know that he would have.


    Again according to what Zimmerman told you.


    We know he didn't confront him at his car, so no conjecture. Its fact.



    Chasing and catching are two different things.

    Please tell us how you know that other than Zimmerman's word.

    Its not a fact its an opinion.

    Why did he have to go in the apartment, he could have went to the T and sat his ass down if he wanted to.

    .............and if he did, please tell us what law he broke.

    Please show us where it was proven in court.
     
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    when they acquitted Zimmeman
     
  11. Bluesguy

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    But if YOU want to engage in conjecture mine is just as good as yours. So let's deal with the facts, Martin ran off then saw Zimmerman in the distance and returned to the T junction and assaulted him.

    Again no, what the girl friend said the transcript evidence and timelines.

    Wasn't taking about the first encounter, fail. But actually according to the transcripts of the NEN call Martin did make some movement around the car.

    Chasing has the intent of catching, you don't get to change the definition of words to suit your argument.

    Prove he did it is YOUR contention, where is this evidence Zimmerman was trying to engage in an unlawful detention of someone.
    Nope, a fact proven in court.

    But he didn't, he went back to the apartment, deal with the facts.


    Why do you assert he broke a law up to that point, I don't.

    OH you are denying the timelines that were presented, the testimony of the girl friend and her statements to police that were entered. You are actually denying those things?

    Go watch the trial again it's public record.
     
  12. Foolardi

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    " They state " ? Would that be the same " they " who concocted a BiG lie in order
    to play race politics.Even going so far as to make comparison to to Emmett Till.
    Zimmerman WAS the victim and Trayvon was the Aggressor { Perp }.
    That was proven in court.Zimmermans face and head are proof.
    Zimmerman WAS arrested which was the initial plea that Sharpton was
    agitating for.
    Angela Corey trumped up a bogus affidavit and used a judge unfamiliar
    with the case.The affidavit failed entirely to mention any of Zimmermans
    injuries.
     
  13. Margot2

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    Its real clear that Martin walked PAST the car .. as that was the most direct route home.. That's hardly threatening unless you are George Zimmerman.

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    Its real clear that Martin walked PAST the car .. as that was the most direct route home.. That's hardly threatening unless you are George Zimmerman.
     
  14. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Is that a real tattoo.I thought a person had to be like 18 in order to get a
    tattoo.If a parental consent state then that means either Sybrina or Tracy or both gave
    consent for Trayvons tattoo.There was mention of Tracy's tattoos.It was
    speculated that father Tracy had a gang tattoo.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    enough already of your one-sided bias and persecution of George.
    A jury found him innocent of the charge which was an Overcharge.
    " Just the Facts Ma'am " -- Sgt.Joe Friday
     
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    Having a gang tattoo, or beating someone up, are not capital crimes, and the death penalty should not be handed out for either
     
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    oh, my bad, you WERE there...so how is it you never got called to testify?
     
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    in florida, you just need parental permission if under 18.


    I ref wrestling, and it's shocking (at first) how many kids have major ink work done. Some of it is tastefully done, hidden normally, but visible when wearing a singlet.... but some, are tattoo'd from neck down, sleeved, even face and curseword tattoos.


    We played a football team that had a running back with "BADASS" tattoo'd on his back. and he was.
     
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    I remember that before the trial some site had posters saying that Tracy Martin
    was or used to be in some gang and that he had their gang tattoo.
    I think it was supposed to be a neck tattoo.However in court Tracy wore a tie
    and button down short.
     
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    Well I guess it's a good thing that didn't happen then. This is one thing I can agree with you on.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Maybe so. Then why has the law accepted the ridiculosness of
    a Hate Crime !crime. And why isn't Eric Holder calling
    what black youth engage or { Polar bear hunting or Knockout game } a
    Hate Crime.Because only whites are targeted.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This needs to looked into further.because those in the know especially those
    who had the 48 hr. opportunity c/o of The Daily Caller and another site to Read
    Trayvon's tweets before his account was deleted know that Trayvon was
    desperately wanting to be in some gang.Or at least he talked as if he was
    interested.
     
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    If that is the case why is OJ Simpson labeled as a murderer since he was acquitted in Court.
     
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    Maybe because they never found a murderer.And OJ's excuse { druggies
    killed his Wife and Goldman } was out of the ballpark unproveable.
     

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