Female Marine drops out of infantry course

A soldier would have to carry 80 M-16 magazines full metal jackets to weigh in at +100 lbs.

Are you saying soldiers are carrying 80 magazines?

Bwwahahaa..

An M-16 weighs 6.5 pounds.

Where is this "100 lbs" coming from? Are they packing a bunch of dildos?

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/m16-specs.htm

 

Lol. "Professional" firefighters on the "front lines" are the MEPS dropouts.

Once again I ask....can your hybrid women that know how to pass PT tests at your little fire station, teach military females how it's done?

 

Oh god, you had to do chin-ups? I've seen women in the fire service chew those up too

Why is it the military can't seem to recruit better women? Maybe that's the issue? Or maybe sexists cherry pick examples?

 

They finally got three women through Ranger School. I think about a dozen started. All were hand picked and trained up before they actually went. Ranger School is about 2 months. The three that passed took about 6 months because of multiple recycles. Two of the three were lesbian West Point officers.

 

I question why men want women to face combat.

Is that really needed? We don't have a large military force anyway that is infantry.

The vast majority of the military are not infantry.

Why women there?

 

I assure you hotshot crew standards and smoke jumper standards are much higher than marine's boot camp standards.

I love that you're arguing otherwise. It's pathetic.

There isn't a person on this earth who would argue that 9weeks of bootcamp is harder than 6 months of fighting the head of a fire on the side of a mountain.

The only person who can argue that is a person who's never done it, which proves you've never been in combat.

Because I think a combat soldier would fully respect the workload of a firefighter who actually does work (and isn't rear echelon like you).

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It's not a man's choice? LOL it's the WOMAN'S choice.

 

You dont hold chin ups for 20 seconds. But it does seem to be a pretty easy test to pass.

 

What level combat do you do as a "professional" firefighter. Please cite it so we may verify your claims. Hand to hand? Or spray from a hose

 

Did you look at the two photographs? They call those flex arm hangs

Chin ups are one thing, those are different.

 

Army PT scores have been reduced 40% for women for eons because this is a scientific fact. One needs upper body strength in addition to lower body strength now more than ever as most MODERN ground infantry soldiers carry at least 60 lbs of gear.

I was in the Army, I have a set of plate carriers, I know what I'm talking about.

I bet you at most you might have served in the Cub Scouts and have maybe fired a BB gun.

 

One was easy. Two was fairly easy. Three was a struggle

Four was a no can do.

They drop you for not doing 1 today

We had to do four of them

 

Don't cite facts to a troll

 

I really want a "soldier" to justify how they are carrying "100lbs" of gear when their gun and 80 magazines of ammo would barely add-up to 100 lbs?

What are you carrying in your "rucks"? Lead weights?

If you had 3 gallons of water that'd take up the space of 3 milk jugs...and would weigh 30 lbs....so still have 70 lbs to go.

If you add 2 MREs, which can be taken out of their packages and stuffed into 1 MRE package, that takes up the space of 1 MRE package. So let's say you have 4MREs made in such a fashion...that's 2 MRE spaces taken up.

If you add 10 Magazines, that is about 15 pounds right there.

So far we are at about 45 pounds and are stretching our space limitations....

What else do you have stuffed into that ruck? Let's say a change of clothes...another couple pounds.

Let's add some boots, another 2 pounds.

So we're about 50 pounds and that's adding ridiculous crap like boots into your pack.

Let's add all your sleeping gear, another 10 pounds, but that's the size of the pack so ..... probably not.

A mess kit...1 pound, size of a cup.

Some grenades maybe? A few pounds there....size of apples.

probably some flares, 5, essentially no space or fills up a pocket, takes up about 1 pound.

I really don't see it adding-up. Maybe a belt of ammunition, maybe 10 pounds there, but pretty sure the military still uses ammo cans for that and not their backpacks.

Can I get a little help here? Soldier claims of carrying 100 pounds sounds like a bunch of bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

 

Yes you have to hold it 20 seconds

Heres the Marine CFT

http://www.military.com/military-fitness/marine-corps-fitness-requirements/marine-corps-combat-fitness-test

 

You sound like a non-combat loser who pretends he was cool because he got to carry a gun around on a parade ground a bunch.

 

Basic fighting load, weapon, LBE, basic load of ammo (7 30 rnd mag) = 35 lbs. This does not include body armor, another 30 lbs. Pack can easily run 60 lbs. Add a parachute and reserve another 30 lbs and I could barely get out the door.

 

Well technically you can lock your arms in that position so I'd say they are easier...now if you had to hold it at middle position that'd be much much harder. But we wouldn't want to work out those 18 year old boy arms too much now would we?

 

Back in 1962 when I was in basic and AIT, they did not have us do chin ups.

We ran a lot. We did do organized PT. But none of the PT was chin ups.

At Ft. Benning when I got there, we had to do the PT test first. That was pretty easy as I saw it. I had no problem with any of the PT test.

But what they are now calling Flex Arm hangs, we called those Air borne pull ups. They did not get called chin ups even then.

Today they let you get away with doing one. We had to do four of them. After three of them, I was not able to pass that test.

Even the regular chin up would be better than none of them. We did none at basic/AIT

 

When I was in during Nam we carried around 75-80lbs sometimes more.

You carry a lot more than simply your weapon and ammo.

 

It has nothing to do with standards. It has to do with keeping women from passing. Although not the Marines and not to blow her out, but to try to knock her down a few rungs for my daughter they were increasingly making what she carried heavier than anyone else. They also went to great lengths to try to psychologically break her.

The Marines can blow out any woman they want to regardless of any standards. It would be different that a teacher claiming blacks can't be educated because they all get Fs.

I suppose what is being claimed is that the USA should challenge ISIS to a pull up contest and whoever wins it wins the war. It sounds like really we should replace Marines with chimpanzees as they have much greater upper body strength, and wars have always been won or lost on which side's infantry has stronger upper body strength.

Why do we waste money on giving Marines weapons? We should just issue them barbells and dumbells.

 

No no you don't get to say "pack easily runs 60 lbs' let's look up military helicopter flight manifests and just prove it. They weigh everything.

Or you can give us a real break down of what's in your gear. Because 7 30 round mags = 8 pounds. Weapon = 6 pounds. That's 14 pounds accounted for. Let's check body armor. 25 pounds...not 30 pounds
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interceptor_body_armor

Do you soldiers always exaggerate by 18%? Does that include exaggeration of size of manhood too?

 

It has to do with keeping women from passing? LOL please use this in court. I would watch this trial for dayyyssss.

 

Look here, if you really want to know what the real weights are they are, surprise, just what I said they were. 60 lbs does not even come close to what a SAW gunner has to carry on a long operation which is about 120 lbs.

https://protonex.com/blog/what-do-soldiers-carry-and-whats-its-weight/

[video]https://youtu.be/Yc5O6Y-Yeyw[/video]

 

All you just listed was the weapon and ammunition. What about the IBA, everything in the ruck sack, ACH, and for the 11C's, the mortars?

LOL firemen are so cute when they try and make an argument. Do you slide down your little fire pole when the little bell goes off?

 

Shouldve ended the thread.