BREAKING: Trump’s First Legislative Effort Fails as G.O.P. Pulls Bill to Repeal Obamacare

It's getting a bit farcical, though. The Democrats have torpedoed both his efforts on the immigration executive order. Now his own Republicans have torpedoed his health bill. He appears to be a President without a party.

Is he going to be able to do anything?

 

I was mad at Obama..........where are YOU when Trump, the TOPIC and SITTING president, fails ? You're on the "" B-b-but Obama" Excuse Train...

 

Don seems well qualified to judge whether Obamacare is a turkey..

Wiki- "Trump graduated from University of Pennsylvania in May 1968 with a Bachelor of Science degree in economics."

 

Can't he expel his enemies from the Rep party?

 

Again, this is just you being accustom to something.

In this case its the Leftists programmed cognitive bias that gives you the opinion that everybody who doesn't support the things you have been conditioned to support is somehow "dumb".

 

Both Government and insurance are willing to pay sky high bills. Both are similar to the proverbial super rich person.

Who bargains prices with your doctor?

Here is what I have learned since going onto Medicare and State Medicade.

Doctors have submitted lower fees to the Feds since the ACA. Still ACA cuts their fees a lot. Way too much for a doctor to keep paying his large staff. Doctors staffs are too large due to them having to create a department to deal with insurance along with the Feds rules and at times state rules.

 

So is your solution to dismantle health insurance?

 

That might work but would constitute the government interfering with commerce. The public as i see this have a right to "spread the risk." It might be far worse to outlaw insurance unless something else was available.

I truly see insurance as a form of gambling. When one plays bingo, they pay into the pot. The pot is used to pay winners. Somebody wants part of that pot or they would not have bingo games.

As to Government, were things set up different, it could be possible that we all have medical bills paid by government. Called the single payer which as the constitution is now set up, is not going to happen.

Were we to treat doctors like we do buying cars, homes and food, etc. we would pay full price or shop for a doctor. Doctor includes hospitals, labs, all of it even pills.

 

The problem with no insurance is the same problem with no car insurance. Once you get an expensive healthcare problem you are screwed. If you are poor you won't be able to afford many healthcare bills.

Also insurance companies negotiate with hospitals and drug companies all the time to get lower rates and people are encouraged to go to more affordable options by making them in the insurance network. The existence of deductibles and not covering the cost 100% does encourage people to make more cost effective healthcare choices.

 

Sure he will.

He just needs to switch parties and get to work with the Dems on a Public Option, etc.

He spent decades as a New York Liberal, so why not?

 

Why do you think the congressional approval rate is at micro levels (far worse than Trump's which must be soooo embarrassing)? They have put partisanship ahead of the good of the country for eight years. They are completely worthless as their constituents are letting them know in no uncertain terms. The Fascist Caucus is an alt-Right joke.

 

If the Democrats hadn't dumped the Obama Care mess in the next Presidents lap, we wouldn't even be talking about it.

 

Very good news as the R&R did very little, We do not need Obamacare Lite..it would have self destrucuted just as fast..

 

Trump being an idiot is not cognitive bias, it's the plain truth for anyone but his sycophants. Listen to his 3rd grade level words and inability to ever talk about policy without using words like terrific, tremendous, or fantastic. The real work of government is none of those things, and that seems to be beyond his understanding. One does not need to fit into your arbitrary category of leftist to see that the man is a mental midget who is wholly unprepared for the task of his office.

I think most trumpbots accepted that he was an idiot, and that fact endeared him to them. After all, when politicians use big words, it makes flyover country people feel stupid. There's few things stupid people like less than to be made to feel stupid, ironically. Instead, they hung on his dealmaking ability and force of personality. I think the recent healthcare debacle just blew that out of the water. With this defeat, he's made his enemies more brazen, while weakening his own image as a strongman. He can't even make a deal to get rid of the ACA, which has been universally decried by every right wing idiot in government for 8 years. Imagine what will happen if the republicans lose the senate in 18. We're looking at a lame duck president who isn't trusted by anyone outside of the frothing rubes who show up at his rallies. He's managed to get to GW Bush levels of idiocy and mistrust that took 6 years in 60 days.

 

When Trumpy was campaigning HE didn't think there would be a problem with it

The Republicans COULD have made it better but their ideas just weren't popular with their constituents (you know, those people they're supposed to be working for )...


But you go ahead and blame the Democrats for every one of Trump's failures, I'm sure HE never blames himself...

 

ROFL I doubt there is little you can instruction me on government and legislative process so save your little snarky breath and try to have an intellectual debate here.

Obamacare remains the health system, the Democrats still own the health system. It still needs to at the least fixed if not replaced entirely.

So what's the next move? The Democrats and from what I can see of the leftist on the board care more about declaring a Republican failure when in fact the issue is THEIR failure which remains in place.

 

The left shows it's true colors, they would rather celebrate the failure to fix the problem THEY created than worry about what is going to happen to the American citizens now as their program collapses.

 

So what now? The Democrats failing imploding program is still in place, what have the Democrats offered as a solution? Is dancing your jig more important that addressing the problem?

 

Go ahead and try to pass blame for Obamacare to the Republicans, it ain't gonna work. THEIR program is STILL in place and it is STILL imploding. This was a failure of process, one that it seems should not have been started as of yet. Perhaps now instead of rushing something through they can hold proper committee hearings and put together a plan they can pass and if enough Dems won't going along then use the nuclear option.
This is about Congress not the White House. It's got to be done legislatively first.

 

Bravo, judge Jeanine. Simply Bravo for an excellent analysis, and assigning the blame for the failed vote where it belongs - with Speaker of the House. We all knew when we voted for Donald Trump he's no Washington insider, and is not expected to know the intricacies of the inner workings of the Congress. Paul Ryan, on the other hand, should have known them, and should have mustered these 60 votes. The failure of the bill is on his shoulders alone.

Again, thank you judge for an excellent analysis. Go, President Trump!

 

Ryancare was nearly as bad as obamacare. I'm glad it failed.

 

Well, it looks like dems will still have the stench of obamacare on them. Hahahaha!

 

I thought president lardass was a dealmaker? He can't even get a law passed while his own party holds the house and senate. Even his usual blustering and threats couldn't get his own party in line. Only the most feckless of trump apologists would place his humiliating defeat on anyone besides the draft dodger in chief himself.

 

This is why you lost.

Because...

1) You think anyone who doesn't vote for who you've been programmed to vote is "dumb".

2) Because you think yourself to be intellectually superior because the people who benefit from your vote told you that you are.

3) Because you mock how Trump speaks yet you failed to acknowledge Obama's inferior linguistic abilities which were demonstrated in full force each and every single time he came off teleprompter, spoke without a teleprompter, or had a script malfunction.

4) Because you comment on policies you don't even understand, tell me more about the "24 million" figure heh.

5) Because you fail to comprehend that government is not supposed to be this all-or-nothing party-line-division network of whatever side has more people wins.

 

You can deflect all you like about how you feel you "won", but your guy is most definitely losing.

The republicans hold the house, senate, and the white house yet are incapable of changing a law they all think should be changed. What happened to donny dealmaker?

Impotent, incompetent, ignorant cowards. That's who's running the country. SO much for winning. You should get your excuses ready because this is only the beginning of the failures that will define this administration and the complete idiots who put him in power.