‘Goodbye Pittsburgh Steelers, Burn In Hell’: Angry Fans Burn Gear Over National Anthem Protest

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  1. JakeStarkey

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    All that behavior is disrespectful, yes.
     
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    i never told you stop watching.

    are you on drugs? because you're all over the place like a coke addict.
     
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    We didnt have a national anthem until 1931. Guess all Americans prior to that were scum.
     
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    yes the bitter uneducated whites sure are!!
     
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    Villanueva has publicly stated he supports his teammates' rights to kneel or sit during the anthem.

    So President Trump is now standing alone here, except for the support of his loyalists. He shouldn't have gotten involved. He now has egg on his face, and for Trump, it isn't the first time. One day he'll learn what a President actually does. I for one hope that day comes soon.
     
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    understands what?
     
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    Nightmare515 Ragin' Cajun Staff Member Past Donor

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    That's not really a good comparison. Not being there during the national anthem because you are off doing something else is different than purposefully being there for the national anthem to purposefully take a knee or throw your fist in the air in protest while it plays.

    I've been to a few sporting events and I've missed more national anthems than I've attended because I'm usually already intoxicated and running around trying to use the bathroom or figure out where the hell my seat was. But if I'm in my seat or in a place where I can stand and observe without holding up the line or something then I will stand and render the proper courtesy. But no I'm not going to take off running back to my seat once I hear it start playing if I'm off doing something else, that's a bit ridiculous and I don't think anyone is advocating folks do that.

    I believe people are simply saying that if you are there and present for it then it is common courtesy to render the proper respect by standing up, hat off, hand over your heart, etc.

    Sort of like during Thanksgiving when I sometimes get together with my extremely devout Christian extended family. I'm not religious but when we sit down to eat and they do their prayers I bow my head with them because that's just common courtesy. And when they drag me to Church that night against my will I participate in the service by bowing my head and all the other stuff they do because I'm there in Church, that's what you do out of respect. I don't purposefully go in there and wait for them to start praying then stand up with my arms folded because I don't believe in God. That would be rude. If I was going to act like that then I just wouldn't go because I have respect for people even though I don't believe in what they believe in. If I couldn't handle rendering the proper respect to the service then I would simply not attend the service and show up after it was done for the after church BBQ and festivities. Which I do sometimes when I know I'm way too intoxicated to act appropriately during the actual church service or when I'm able to make a deal with my grandmother...
     
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    To try and say these players are disrespecting America, service members, veterans and the flag is a disgrace. Some of these right wingers are the biggest hypocrites running.

    I am sick to my stomach of these fake ass patriots, they are only patriots as long as they can sit in the comfort of their home.

    Here is a real patriotic American.

    [​IMG]

    Brennan Gilmore posted a Twitter picture Sunday morning of his grandfather, John Middlemas, kneeling while wearing a veteran's cap. Gilmore wrote: "My grandpa is a 97 year-old WWII vet & Missouri farmer who wanted to join w/ those who #TakeaKnee: 'those kids have every right to protest.'"

    This man gets it.
     
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    Who is trying to stop freedom of speech, except the Left? Funny how they are going hysterical over the kneeling but are glad to stop more thoughtful conservative speakers from expressing their views on campus.

    Freedom of speech is not the issue. It is where and when it is done. Some places, including an individual's place of employment, do not or should not allow for saying whatever you want, whenever you want. And the national anthem in front of millions is not a player's podium to act as he pleases. Taking a knee during the national anthem, is not brave, it is cheap PR, in my opinion. It does not really place any further demands on the protester, yet it makes him a hero amongst those who are rampantly angry demanding renegades. If I do not like the way the country is being governed, that does not give me the right to bash windows in stores and loot them. Similarly, if I choose to disrespect the flag in an brazen way without impunity, good luck with that. Your bosses may beg to differ because they have opinions as well about this nation and how their organization should be represented.
     
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    These moneyed elitist don't need me whichever side they are on.
    LOL, unfortunately, I learned that the hard way too many times. :)
     
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    i just asked them again, they said those ingrates can meet them down range.
     
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    Who gives a ****? Prior to 2009, the players were in the locker room doing god knows what during the national anthem.
     
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    LOL.
     
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    Kaepernick lit the fuse. He's responsible.

    He wore pictures of cops as pigs on his uniform.
     
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    there's a lot of people who may not like trump, but disagree with anthem protests and he might have won some of them over.

    but as i said, i think his reason for this is further force the left to take it's mask off and show what it is really about.
     
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    yes you have the right but that doesn't excuse you from the consequences of doing so as those players and the NFL are quickly learning
     
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    I honestly don't understand why people are so upset by this.

    One of my favorite, and mostly paraphrased quotes, and one I think all Americans shpuld embrace more rigorously.


    "I may disagree with what you say, but will defend to the death your rifh t to say it."

    Do I think the venue is appropriate for these protests? No, I don't like sport and politics being so intertwined. If I owned an NFL team, I would impose a game check fine for every player not standing on the sideline. I would also publically support them in any position they want to take off the field.

    As for the NFL side, this can only be a loser for them. No one is going to be watching because of the protests, a lot of people are tuning out because of them. The NFL is a business and they need to start looking at this as a business decision.


    And fiinally Trump. Once again he put his foot in his mouth. The people that hate him now will hate him come re-election time too. Their hate isn't based in his words or actions, it's all based on his thwarting the anointed one. There is no point getting into a pissing match with them. He needs to show some discipline in messaging and stop pulling Obama's and inflaming everything that happens.
     
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    I'm sure Voltamp maybe doesn't speak for all veterans, but I can guarantee JakeStarkey that you don't. Every single current and former military friend I have has expressed their disgust with these players and this disrespectful unpatriotic so-called "protest", and it's been flooding my Facebook too.
     
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    Do you want the league or the owners to FORCE players to stand during the anthem because it is something that you would do?
     
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    wtf did i just read?
     
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    Villanueva broke with his teammates and came out and stood for the anthem, too.
     
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    That takes of that argument. :)

    Pres Trump just made a mountain out of a molehill.
     
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    Uh-huh, I bet you felt the exact same way when that stupid lady wasn't doing her job issuing marriage licenses to homosexuals because she was expressing her faith at her workplace.
     
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    here's the thing, lets review your quote:

    "I may disagree with what you say, but will defend to the death your right to say it."

    i take that to have the meaning of, while we disagree, we're still americans, we still love this country and have that in common.


    these guys are expressing disgust for this country. we can no longer say that we have love of country in common. THAT is where the disconnect and anger is coming from.

    does that make sense?
     
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    And not for the reason you think he did. You need to read his statements from today. I posted them.

    He supports his teammates rights to kneel or sit during the anthem.
     
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    well what do you expect an O lineman to say? screw those guys they're asholes?
     

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