US sanctions on Riyadh would mean Washington is stabbing itself

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  1. Starjet

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    Elaborate, and no I haven't.
     
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    Starjet Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah, yeah, yeah. And if man was meant to fly he'd have wings. Well, he does, and he did--with his mind.
     
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    Currently the United States resembles a bunch of completely ignorant and arrogant Romans unaware of the Visigoths about to storm the city gates.

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    Possible. But don't think so from what he's written. At first glance his writings seem very antiauthoritarian and very pro free press.
     
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    Well, now, you have a point there. One does hope for the best though. Truly there must be good souls left who know the truth when they see. At least some.
     
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    Not all intelligence officers are clandestine and not all clandestine officers are spies. We often have people who are literal pundits, experts in the culture who observe and report on the local goings on, sometimes openly, sometimes not so openly. This guy was an investigative reporter for a well known and respected newspaper. Isn't that just the modern version of a pundit?

    How is drug use immoral?
     
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    LOL! OMG. Please tell me you're ****ing joking.

    You believe, in YOUR mind, that an Intelligence Officer is the same thing as an investigative reporter??????

    *Left wing- is this the best you guys have?
     
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    In Turkey maybe

    Or saudi arabia

    But not in America
     
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    I thought Huffington Post was too "liberal" for those of you on the far right (?).
     
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    It's not much of a mystery. He was murdered by the Saudi government, essentially. We must respond to that, just as we were compelled to respond to Putin's barbarity. Something like this perpetrated by his agents or agents of Bashar al-Assad would certainly be strongly condemned and acted upon. It isn't right to pretend it's different when the Saudis do it and treat them differently.

    And I don't see why it should disturb you so for us to take official actions against Saudi Arabia for this official act on their part. It is an entirely different issue from inner city gang banging.
     
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    one possible reason why Trump and some on the far right are so preoccupied with Khashoggi - his involvement with al-Qaeda:


    https://globalnews.ca/news/4545784/jamal-khashoggi-osama-bin-laden/


    To me, it never comes as a surprise to learn that the far right aligns itself with America's enemies since that is what they often are themselves.
     
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    Any links to the Muslim Brotherhood?
     
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    What is real?

     
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    Trump has not aligned himself with Khashoggi and against the prince - yet. OTOH, they left already has.

    Is Khashoggi America's friend?
     
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    That which is. I'll also tell what is not real. Ghosts. Be they mothers or husbands, no matter what Whoopi or Blake believe.
     
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    His or mine? Me for sure not. Him? haven't seen any so far.
     
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    1. The documented murders in Baltimore and the rest of our Urban Hell Holes were all committed in our jurisdiction, America.
    2. The victims were almost all Americans.

    OTOH:

    1. So far the evidence that the WaPo reporter is dead is thin. No corpus delicti.
    2. Istanbul is not an American city. The laws of Turkey apply.
    3. Turkey has not even charged anyone with murder yet.
    4. The reporter was not an American.
     
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    Then the Turks should investigate the reporter and get back to us.
     
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    A reporter or pundit who reports to any nations spy agencies is by definition as spy.
    Unless his spying is on the public record he is a clandestine operator.
     
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    Review my posts. Most people on this forum know that I almost never cite RW sources.
    Why would you assume that I am "far right"?
     
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    There is no reasonable doubt the Saudi's did this. The only way they get by with it is if they prove he was an Iranian spy. Spies get executed. That's brutal. But its the truth.

    Wonder why that is? Why don't spies have Geneva protections?

    As for the American onslaught of gang bangers banging each other. Everyone knows the solution; they don't want to relinquish power. It makes their souls too empty of meaning. Legalize drugs. Poof. Problem over.

    Imagine there are no drug laws
    You know its easy if you try.
    No jail before us
    Above us, a beautifully mellow sky-high.

    You may say I'm a dreamer
    I'm not the only one.
    Come and join us.
    And we can all get stoned.

    (My apologies to John Lennon.)
     
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    The video is filled with dramatic images and sounds of violence. What parts of it do you think are clearly real? The ocean, the shark, the wounds, the board, the rocks, the buoy, the Gopro, the birds, the whale ...?
     
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    But we still have a lot of nukes, and the Visigoths don't like that.
     
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    Spies are not protected because international laws has not yet become irrational enough to protect them.

    What specifically convinces you beyond any "reasonable doubt" that there was a murder, and that KSA did it?
     
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    On the surface, he was an American resident entitled to the same laws and protections as American citizens. He was a human being and had to right to comment as he saw fit. He was murdered ostensibly as a reaction by the crown prince to his writings as a journalist. A prince who apparently doesn't appreciate a free press.

    It is because they are an ally and attacked, tortured, and murdered a journalist, and by extension, the principle of a free press, that they must be shunned, ridiculed, mocked, condemned, and isolated. Additionally, he must be handed over to the Americal judicial system.

    If proof surfaces that he was an Iranian spy, then I would reevaluate my position.
     
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