Is Donald Trump any different from any other president before him?

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Is Donald Trump any different from any other president before him?

  1. Yes but for the better, he's actually in touch with the REAL America!

    10 vote(s)
    21.7%
  2. Yes because he's a Washington outsider, people voted for him because he would be different

    11 vote(s)
    23.9%
  3. No, he's no different to his predecessors

    5 vote(s)
    10.9%
  4. Yes because he's more corrupt and incompetent than his (immediate) predecesors

    10 vote(s)
    21.7%
  5. Yes because he is absolutely the worst president in the history of the nation.

    10 vote(s)
    21.7%
  1. Reasonablerob

    Reasonablerob Well-Known Member

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    Well, a novel result, for once we seem to more or less have a tie.
     
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    Bingo! Not only corrupt, but flat out evil. What shocks me the most is that so many people can't see the obvious. Or maybe they are just as bad. The only way I can see tolerating his behavior is if you have no morals or decency yourself.

    It is a war on truth, a war on decency, a war on liberty, and a war on democracy, and trump is leading the charge. And this is why I have given up on America. If this is America, then America is dead. You can't have a democracy when 40% of the country would support an evil dictator. You can't allow very small and destructive populations to have equal say in the Senate. And the office of President has to go. It is too dangerous to be allowed to continue. The system has utterly failed. The people have utterly failed. Legalize secession and vote to end the madness.
     
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    How is he evil exactly? How is he a dictator? Trump haters throw these words around but they never actually explain how Trump fits them?
     
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    No other president has did or said anything near what trump has said

    Has any other president been thought of as insane??

    has any other president tweeted disgusting and racists tweet as many as 20 times a day ??

    has any other president praised and coddled foreign dictators ??

    when was the last time a president refused to show his tax returns??

    has any other president refers to his opponent as human scum??

    Above is just a sample of trump
    Insanity

    lock him up
     
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    It's a start, and not a secret that Putin is the richest man in the planet.
     
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    Obama told us to get in back of the bus

    Why is it emotional with you? He told you what you needed to hear..
     
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    Emotional ??

    hardly. My post was facts

    Show me an incorrect statement in that list??

    and psst..

    obama is gone. Why must the only defense of trump be one of the below responses

    yeah but Hillary or yeah but Obama

    both are history

    gone bye bye.

    Give it up.
     
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    Seriously, has any presidential candidate called people deplorables?

    It's the same thing over and over again, the left lowers the bar and gets upset when they get hit back..

    Really you think you can shame people in the atheist ways?
     
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    the only thing I am ashamed of is trump in the Whitehouse

    he has made the USA to become no different than a 3rd world country politically and morally

    he has allowed the USA to become Putin’s bitch.

    human scum is ok but deplorable is not??

    Hillary said that after people hears trumps pussssy grabbing quote

    trump said human scum when people did their duty and testified seeing wrongdoing

    he tweeted derogatory comments about a lifelong public servant and a decorated war veteran

    give it up
    Trump is a disgusting excuse for a human being
     
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    Hey, well said . I like the way you put that . Spot on as well.
     
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    Oh boo hoo , get over yourself. Everyone run and take cover President Trumps tweets are so stinging today . I guess you prefer Barack Hussain and his bombs and drone attacks. Listen to yourself .
     
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    All you are saying is after fifty or so years of monopoly of media, you are now upset that some one in power called you out on it.

    And it drives you crazy,

    No?
     
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    Wow. More tin foil hat conspiracy theories
     
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    Ah let them speak, I enjoy it
     
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    I read all the transcripts and listened to all the testimony. I did not let prejudice and bigotry blind me to what was overwhelmingly obvious.
     
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    Your rants are getting you in the running for crazy posts of the year
     
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    what was overwhelmingly obvious.


    Kangaroo court, glad you agree
     
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    Trump calls people insane for wearing dresses and using little girls bathrooms

    And he is the one who is disgusting?

    It's not logical
     
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    More from trumps brainwashed followers

    when the media reports exactly what trump says or does the brainwashed read what they think is fake news

    what day while Clinton was being impeached was the media being monopolized ??

    is Fox News also monopolized or just managed and run by perverts??
    Or how about Bill orilielly. He had to pay woman $25 million+
    How perverted must a man be to need $25 million to silence a woman ??

    is that fake news?? Or is oreollys still
    On fox??
     
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    *sigh*

    At least Trump didn't pay off almost a million dollars in a civil rape case to paula
     
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    Which are assumptions if you actually did.
     
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    a million is chump change to what trump has paid to woman

    don’t forget He has been married 3 times And between porn stars and playboy models my bet would be a million is just a start for him
     
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    What does a president past have anything to do with today? Bill Clinton was getting blow jobs in the oval office

    If bill was removed from office we wouldn't have Trump today..


    Yet you gave a pass.. when will you admit Trump is your fault?
     
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    You realize you will receive warnings and your post deleted. Just sayin
     
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    Like every other president in my lifetime, Trump has done some things I agree with, done others I opposed. In that regard he is about the same as any other president in my lifetime. Where Trump differs is in his personality, his non-presidential behavior. This irks the heck out of me. Words and phrases in which I describe him are obnoxious, uncouth, behaves like a schoolyard bully at times. Also Trump throws temper tantrums, usually via twitter and calls others names like a five year old kid who's parents failed to teach him any manners. His persona and perhaps Trump himself belongs in the WWE as a wrestler more than the Oval Office.

    Strange isn't it, that one would expect a president to act, shall I say presidential. It's Trump's unconventional behavior, your description, that will cause him to lose in 2020. No doubt most Democrats hate him, most Republicans love him. Their vote is pretty much decided. But what about independents? Although independents are fairly split on Trump's policies and his stances on the issues, they give him only a 39% favorable rating vs. 49% unfavorable. One would expect more of a 50-50 split based on where independents are on what Trump has and or hasn't done. Question 54A

    When independents were asked, Question 64. Trump Likability Regardless of whether you agree with him, do you like or dislike Donald Trump as a person? Only 29% of independents like Trump as a person, 42% dislike him as a person. This is more based on Trump's character, his personality, his persona, the way he behaves.

    https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/u9tu99dui5/econTabReport.pdf

    I'd say that's bad news for 2020. Normally a person doesn't vote for someone they dislike. The Democratic Party is still the larger of the two major parties, this means Trump and the GOP must win the independent vote or lose the election. Democrats only have to keep the independent vote fairly close. I'd say lose them by less than 5 points.

    But who knows, the democrats may nominate another Hillary Clinton type candidate in which the independent voter dislikes as much or more than Trump. This was the case in 2016 where 70% of independents viewed Hillary negatively vs 57% who viewed Trump negatively. To win in 2020, Trump's only hope in my opinion is that the democrats nominate someone that really turn off independents.
     
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