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Is Donald Trump any different from any other president before him?

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by Reasonablerob, Nov 23, 2019.

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Is Donald Trump any different from any other president before him?

  1. Yes but for the better, he's actually in touch with the REAL America!

    10 vote(s)
    21.7%

  2. Yes because he's a Washington outsider, people voted for him because he would be different

    11 vote(s)
    23.9%

  3. No, he's no different to his predecessors

    5 vote(s)
    10.9%

  4. Yes because he's more corrupt and incompetent than his (immediate) predecesors

    10 vote(s)
    21.7%

  5. Yes because he is absolutely the worst president in the history of the nation.

    10 vote(s)
    21.7%
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  1. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Other citizens compete with citizens as well. Competition is supposedly what we Americans are about, are we all snowflakes now who must have our protected space? We have become the most prosperous and powerful entity yet existing because we recognize that our economy can always generate another job but productive citizens are a limited resource. The more people we have working productively the more taxes cant be paid and the better off we ALL are
     
    Aleksander Ulyanov, Nov 24, 2019
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  2. Reasonablerob

    Reasonablerob Well-Known Member

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    No they're not, otherwise it wouldn't be an issue. No one is asking for no gun control. Trump supporters obsess about the border because it affects them, I doubt it affects you, to you an illegal immigrant is someone who serves your decaf latte and takes care of your kids when you're at the Hamptons.

    You must remember people vote for Trump as a backlash against the excesses of the left, not essentially because they believe in him
     
    Reasonablerob, Nov 25, 2019
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  3. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    I've never been to the Hamptons and the only Latte I've had is in cans from the discount supermarket. I never hired anybody for anything, ever. What excesses are we talking about? What has the left done that has hurt so many people so badly?
     
    Aleksander Ulyanov, Nov 25, 2019
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    Well it appears the IRS hasn't been doing its job and we needed a special prosecutor to prove him innocent
     
    william kurps, Nov 25, 2019
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    They are not coming here legally, they are crossing our borders. That's a crime
     
    william kurps, Nov 25, 2019
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    Right-wing extremists and enemies of America (such as Pootin and Rocket Man Kim) appreciate Trump. And he too.

    That's a little worrying. :(
     
    pitbull, Nov 25, 2019
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    Since when did capitalist Russia all of a sudden became an enemy with the left?
     
    william kurps, Nov 25, 2019
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    "The Left" is a spongy term. Some even take Liberals for Leftists.

    "Left" in relation to Russia was the Communist Soviet Union. And comrade Pootin is very sad that the SU has failed.
     
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    They are surrendering immediately and claiming refugee status, that is legal.
     
    Aleksander Ulyanov, Nov 25, 2019
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    Putin is a dictator known to poison his political opponents and Kim is one of the most repressive tyrants in the world today who has had his own relatives torn apart by dogs.. These are now our friends?
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov, Nov 25, 2019
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    So youre trying to say anyone can come here now, correct?
     
    william kurps, Nov 25, 2019
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    The 1993 constitution declares Russia a democratic, federative, law-based state with a republican form of government. State power is divided among the legislative, executive, and judicial branches.
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    https://en.m.wikipedia.org › wiki
    Politics of Russia - Wikipedia
     
    william kurps, Nov 25, 2019
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  13. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Putin has perverted and violated his Constitution at will. Is poisoning your opponents and journalists you don't like one of its powers?
     
    Aleksander Ulyanov, Nov 25, 2019
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    Putin has committed genocide in Chechnya and is supporting one of the bloodiest killers of our time, Bashar al Assad. :(
     
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    They are Trump's friends....like attracts....
     
    FoxHastings, Nov 25, 2019
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    I don't agree that competition is what we Americans are about, and yes, we need a protected space. Times change: jobs are exported to low wage countries and automation lay off other jobs. When productive citizens are a limited resource, the productive citizens benefit from higher wages. The larger the pool of workers the better off are the owners and worse off are the workers.

    Have you not heard economic inequality is increasing? Have you not heard wages are stagnant?
     
    Pycckia, Nov 25, 2019
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    We don need no stinking evidence. One wonders what it is like to be so sure of ones opinion with little to no proof other than feelings.
     
    Hoosier8, Nov 25, 2019
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  18. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Jeebus, you're more liberal than me. The idea is to stop economic inequality from increasing and make wages less stagnant. You want to not only surrender to bad economics but to make our laws accommodate them.

    Or maybe there's some other reason besides dubious economics you don't like immigration
     
    Aleksander Ulyanov, Nov 25, 2019
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    One wonders what it is like to have so much evidence right in one's face and ignore it..
     
    Aleksander Ulyanov, Nov 25, 2019
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    Right thinking? Trump is poorly educated and has the self control of an 8 year old.
     
    Margot2, Nov 25, 2019
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    I take it you avoided reading any transcripts or listen to any testimony. That would be the ONLY way you could say what you imagine.
     
    Hoosier8, Nov 25, 2019
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    That is the neverTrumpers narrative. Forget what's actually happening, go with your feewings.
     
    Hoosier8, Nov 25, 2019
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    Going from your metrics, since 2016 there are a lots of "Trump" on the left then... Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
     
    Badaboom, Nov 25, 2019
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    Well said.
     
    Injeun, Nov 25, 2019
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    And how does increasing the labor force cause wages to rise? Is the law of supply and demand suddenly bad economics?

    Back when labor unions were strong they were anti-immigration and pro-protectionism. Were they wrong also?
     
    Pycckia, Nov 25, 2019
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