‘Goodbye Pittsburgh Steelers, Burn In Hell’: Angry Fans Burn Gear Over National Anthem Protest

Not a fan of today's Redskins uniform, but it has nothing to do with their name.

I have MASH on my Tivo from when it was played on Encore or Starz last year. I have to watch it again now so I can laugh at Doctor Jones. Speakchucker!

 

Your presumption, that you have so perfectly characterized what I post and stand for, is amusing and pompous all at once.
What I see when I look in the mirror is someone who won't be bullied by people with a skewed political agenda. And that puts it mildly.

 

>> I merely contend that intransigent partisanship on BOTH sides use EXACTLY the same kind of tactics, reserve the same lame insults for their opponents, ignore facts, promote lies and misrepresentations and on and on and on. <<
This is lame, imo. Put it this way, all men are sinners. Yet, some sinners are in heaven and some are in hell. There must be something having to do with degree of sin and frequency? The LEFT when it comes to lies and disgraceful tactics, are far, far worse in what they do.

>>I am comfortable with my intellectual honesty.<<
I’m not… just based on this post alone of yours.

>>I notice that you have totally bought off on the notion that the mainstream media is dishonest and runs cover for the evil leftist, therefore rendering anything they have to say as lies.<<
Not anything… but most everything that pertains to serious national matters. Yes, their cover ups of Obama, Hillary, Podesta, DNC, et al. lies and denials and crimes are as obvious as a bull in a china shop.

>>How convenient and deliciously ironic, especially since you and yours believe the paragon of journalistic integrity is Breitbart and Fox.<<
Start pointing out the lies and cover ups by those two mentioned. Just because they lean heavily right does not render them disgraceful news reporting agencies --- which is way, way more than I can say for ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS, MSNBC, CNN, and even the major newspapers who refuse to honestly report on these scandals.

>> I notice that you have totally bought off on the unsubstantiated accusations of criminal behavior on the part of democrats but go apoplexic when the inevitable turnaround takes place.<<
I notice that my accusation of being intellectually dishonest is holding true. Either that or intellectually lazy. The empirical evidence lays waste to your charge of “unsubstantiated.”

>>As for how innocent or guilty Trump and his minions are , I am perfectly willing to let the investigations run their course and then the world will know one way or another if in fact Trump is a traitor or a dupe.>>
Well pardon me for my pessimism. But if a congressional committee / investigation cannot indict Hillary Clintion after she destroys 30,000 emails, hard drives and blackberries subpoenaed by congress ---- if a congressional committee cannot charge Lois Lerner or other IRS officials for destroying 5 hard drives subpoenaed by congress --- if they cannot find fault in so many other Obama scandals ---- I have little confidence the truth or the proper verdicts ever emerge. But no doubt, after 12 months spinning themselves into the ground trying to pin something on Trump, maybe this investigation will prove different. No doubt! And you wonder why.

 

I think what you find lame to be most insightful.


You refuse to accept that the RIGHT is just as culpable in their lies, bigotries, paranoia and disgraceful tactics. Nah you retreat to that last bastion of hypocritical defense - Your bad is just so much badder than my bad. Now that is lame.

an oldie but good, you appear to have mistaken me for somebody that gives a damn.

I notice you have totally bought into the "leftist conspiracy" where not only is the media covering up the crimes of the democrats but so is the entire justice system of the nation. Seems even though at least a dozen EXTENSIVE and EXPENSIVE investigations into all kinds of wild arsed accusations not a single indictment, not even a whiff of one.

Who knew EVERYONE in the government was in the tank for the leftists.

Like is said, deeeeeelish.

Oh? what "empirical" evidence to what crimes committed by whom are you refering to ?

And why isn't anyone doing anything about this empirical evidence in pursuit of partisan justice. ARe all the right wing trumpettes in government right now not capable of moving forward with additional criminal investigations and grand juries? Why isn't this being done? Is trump really a democratic plant, put there to ensure nobody nails the devil leftists?

If I was to behave in your partisan manner I would be screaming that there is absolutely no doubt that Trump is a money launderer, tax evader, collaborator and serial liar. that he should be impeached, locked up and the key thrown away!!!!!!!!!!

But I am not doing that. Like I said, as much as I have my own opinion I am perfectly willing to await Meuller's report.

 

Bullied? seriously? wow, you sure never struck me as a snowflake. I'll try to be a little more sensitive to your needs from now on.

 

A friend of mine posted a photo on facebook of all his redskins memorabilia he was donating to Goodwill and told everybody which one he gave it to in case they wanted to go buy any of it. He will regret that in a few months or years.

 

I think that's you and your cohorts goal though I didn't say you were at all successful.

 

LOL - I doubt it...

 

Me and my cohorts? I act alone. That you would think that bullying you is an actual objective of our exchanges, tells me a lot about your sensitivities. An interesting dichotomy.

 

Baltimore Ravens National Anthem Singer Resigns over Anti-Military Anthem Protests

 

Your nonsensical babble represents
a collectivist group think mentality whether you realize and acknowledge it or not.

The "bullying" is just an attempt to silence critical discussion through a variety of mostly dishonest ways.
A good example is how you've seized on terms like "bullying" and "snowflake"
loading your posts with false emotionally laden terms designed to silence people (even though you decided to take me on...I never addressed you prior to this and hope to never have contact with you again).

 

collectivist group think mentality? Is that the best you can do? As for realizing and acknowledging things, I suggest you ponder this yourself, whether you think you need to or not. If done correctly you should gain some valuable insights.

What a specious bit of nonsense. Only people with severe psychological issues or trolls could be as hyper sensitivity as you pretend to be. "take you on"? that's a real interesting opinion you have of yourself.

 

I don't know but it's all I need do. I have identified a common link among all left wing agitprops.

Do I need to ponder whether I engage in collectivist philosophy and the group think ethic that springs from that? I don't think I do.

Nevertheless you took it upon yourself
to critique and denigrate my post about leftist tactics. I didn't ask you to chime in, which is permissible in the forum format.
Let's just remember the dynamics at play here and not pretend I am "hyper sensitive" as you allege. You attacked me...I defended myself.
It's all so simple.

 

No doubt this identification is the result of extensive in depth research that has torn the covers off the entire leftist conspiracy to destroy america with its evil collectivism. I particularly like the conclusion that everyone that disagrees with your perspective and has the nerve to voice their opinions is a leftist agiprop.

Of course you don't because it appears as though you have ingested this bumpersticker and it forms the basis of your "truth". I realize you don't realize this, but you are expersssing a version of group think by regurgitating such nonsense as "collectivist group think".

I'm not pretending, I am stating a conclusion based on your emotional responses and the words you used.

As for its all being so simple. Yes it certainly does appear that is the case.

 

Ah, ridicule. Very good.

There are people I disagree with on policy that I don't think are merely kneejerk leftist agitprop fire hydrants spewing their views out all over the place.
I am engaged in another thread with one of those right now. I wouldn't say you were one of them, however.

This is not even as sophisticated as the "I know you are...what am I?" argument because it dismisses the collectivist phenomenon as "nonsense".

Oh....okay
I didn't realize you had "intellectualized" your response to that degree.

Great.

 

thank you.

No, I don't dismiss collectivism as a political ideology, I dismisses YOUR application of the term.

How marvellously droll.

Without intellect one cannot truly comprehend but one can churlishly condescend. I get it.

 

I accept this definition of collectivism. How about you?

"the political principle of centralized social and economic control"
What part of this do you disagree with?

No. Thank you!

It seems like one who
thinks he can decide what defines intellectualism without any intellectualized input of his own doesn't really comprehend the term at all.

If you think you can call someone hyper sensitive purely because you say they are hyper sensitive then it's certain you think all you have to do is declare something to be so, like intellectualism for instance, and voila...it is!

That is anti intellectualism at it's worst.

 

what part of "your application of the term" do you not understand. I did not ask for the definition as I am well aware of it.

IOW, I ain't even remotely a collectivist.

You do realize that the above is an textbook example of fallacious logic, don't you?

No, I think I can call someone hyper sensitive when they interpret disagreement with bullying. who construct some sort of fantasy that others are out to force them to change their minds when mostly its just trying to get them to think in the first place.

"It seems like one who thinks he can decide what defines intellectualism without any intellectualized input of his own doesn't really comprehend the term at all."

 

So you're a republican, then?

No, but I do realize that just because you declare something as being without intellect that means nothing without a foundation of reason to build your claim on.

There is no fantasy that anyone is trying to "force" me to change my views.

It's good to see some wisdom in your post even if you do have to steal it from me.

 

That's not why he resigned.

Odoms, 28, does not feel the players were attempting to disrespect the military or country. Quite the opposite.

He fought for their right to protest -- including a tour in Afghanistan -- and if fans want to attack players for protesting, rather than understand why they're taking the knee, he no longer feels "welcome" delivering "The Star-Spangled Banner" to them on Sundays, he said.

"Most fans accepted me as a veteran, former 911 operator, patriot and singer of the anthem, but far too many fans seemed to reject issues that affect not just me, a black veteran and an American, but all of us," said Odoms, who left the military last year as a sergeant.

www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/09/28/us/baltimore-ravens-anthem-singer-quits-nfl-protests/index.html

I guess that clapping stopped pretty quick.

 

Nope.

Well there is an assumption that you know what you write and therefore should be aware of the fallaciousness of your logic/argument. But I guess I assume too much.

Oh? so what is objective of this barrage of bullying you constantly face?

Strong is the irony this one has.

 

Yes. You really do.
Look, if you don't think someone who fancies himself a judge and arbiter of intellectual content should, for the sake of intellectual honesty if nothing else, qualify his criticisms and claims then let me know and stop wasting my time.

Ego? A primitive tribal mindset?
Boredom? Abysmal self esteem? Who knows? Mainly that no one can "force me" to violate my personal ethics.

Whatevs....

 

The NFL is a business and if taking a knee has a enough of an impact upon sales then acton will be taken to bring things back in line with popular public opinion else things will remain as they are.

 

I am perfectly willing to qualify my criticisms and claims.

I attempted to give you the benefit of the doubt wrt your ability to recognize the fallacious logic of your arguments. I am not a judge nor arbiter of what is fallacious logic, because fallacious logic arguments are extremely well documented and not all that hard to identify. It either is or isn't.

I suggest you review your post's statements and examine them against this handy list of logical fallicies:








[/quote]Ego? A primitive tribal mindset?
Boredom? Abysmal self esteem? Who knows? Mainly that no one can "force me" to violate my personal ethics. [/quote]

Boy am I glad that even in the face of such immense pressure your personal ethics cannot be violated.

Again, I fail to see where I or anyone else around here has tried to bully you or force you to violate anything, hence my reference to your hypersensity. Nobody's out to beat you into ideological submission.