‘I now hate my ship’: Surveys reveal disastrous morale on cruiser Shiloh

Is there a GIF that means "**** you too?"

 

Oh really? What ships did you serve on to draw that conclusion? As a former Machinist Mate 3rd Class in the United States Navy I can say unequivocally that the conditions described in that article are not the norm (which is why the situation was newsworthy in the first place).

 

Sounds like a perfect reason why we need to increase military spending. Thank you for the above.

 

Destroyer of Illusions is mistakenly describing US preparedness by drawing on the bad old days of Russian decline and incompetence.

 

Many people have the impression that the Navy Times or the Army Times are official publications with the stamp of approval from the Pentagon

But they are private publications with most of their reporters the same liberal lollipops you would find at any newspaper in America

 

Sound like that ship's captain played by James Cagney. LOL Wonder if this Cap'n had a little tree in a pot?

 

Sailors refer to the Littoral Combat Ship (LCS) as the Little Crappy Ship.

Navy's $37 Billion "Little Crappy Ships" Littoral Combat Ships "Not Survivable"

Littoral Combat Ship aka "Little Crappy Ship"Littoral combat ships, known inside the Navy as little crappy ships, are too lightly armed to be effective on offense and too lightly armored to survive on defense according to information released by Bloomberg based on a secret memo written by the commander of naval surface forces, Vice Admiral Tom Copeman. The $37 billion ship program, developed after 9-11, has been beset with cost overruns and materials engineering problems including cracks and corrosion. The cost of the troubled sea turkeys has doubled to 440 million per ship since 2005. The objective was to develop a fast small ship for near shore action but, as the Navy should have learned from swift boats in Viet Nam, lightly armed boats near shore are easy targets to kill. Navy contractors are developing 2 different designs for the LCS, but both are failing...

continue -> https://www.dailykos.com/stories/20...-Not-Survivable-Writes-Admiral-in-Secret-Memo

Little Crappy Stories of Little Crappy Ships

The Littoral Combat Ship, the strange bifurcated class of toothless surface combatants-minus-combat-capabilities, continues to produce headlines. The lame-duck Social Justice Secretary of the Navy, Ray Mabus, paid little attention to sailors, apart from undermining them, and less to ships, apart from giving them names that would assure he continued to be the Georgetown lion of his dreams. And he leaves the incoming DOD and Departent of the Navy with a large, weak, defenseless problem that’s going to build to dozens of worthless ships, if it’s not sharply stopped.

Item: LCS Has Zero Chance of Completing a 30-Day Mission

And that’s not a combat mission, for which even the ships’ coin-operated spokesmen are starting to admit the ships are completely unsuited. That’s just steaming somewhere for 15 days and coming back, maintaining combat readiness, without breaking down.

The current fleet of eight ships “have a near-zero chance of completing a 30-day mission, the Navy’s requirement, without a critical failure of one or more seaframe subsystems essential for wartime operations,” Michael Gilmore, the Pentagon’s Director of Operational Test And Evaluation.

Ish Kabibble, that’s not sounding too good.

“The miracle of the LCS didn’t happen,” said Paul Francis of the Government Accountability Office. “We are 26 ships into the contract and we still don’t know if it can do its job.”...

Continue reading more crap about the crappy ship. ->http://weaponsman.com/?p=37326

 

If you include the War on Drugs(war on americans) we have been at war my entire life. Either we love war, or our few elites would starve without one going on somewhere.

Of course, after our politicians saw what happened with the dissent with the war in Vietnam, where parents who lost sons were giving their senator or congressman hell, they figured out they needed to get rid of the draft, which brought in a cross section of american's young people. For if they got rid of the draft and went with an all voluntary military, this would rid them of the problem of being held responsible for needless war and the deaths of nice middle class kids, with their perpetual war for perpetual peace foreign policy. This would force our military to recruit the poor who had a bleak future otherwise, and to accept people in who wanted to be an american citizen, which meant lots of hispanics. Hey, this was perfect! Now if they got any chaff about needless war mongering, all they had to say was, these people volunteered, so they knew they could lose their lives, or arms and legs.

And it is also very good that our poor spill their blood and lose their lives for our elites who profit so well from perpetual war for perpetual peace. That saves the lives of what is left of our middle class, and protects the lives of the sons of our elites. A perfect system, indeed.

I served with a cross section of america in the late 60s, the upper class, the upper middle, the middle middle, the lower middle and the working poor. I was exposed and got to know people from all walks of life. We were all the same, regardless of what class we came from. The better to do was exposed to the poor. And vice versa. And you found out close up, regardless of class, we all bled the same color and shared the fears of combat. And getting to know people from a higher class could help on out later in life. And did with some of the servicemen.

 

Obviously our navy ships aren't good enough. They are better off spending the money designing a whole new fleet of ships with new luxuries like a carnival cruse ship with a gun port. That'll fix moral.

Last one to the water slide is a rotten egg!

 

I have the idea that the war on drugs is just to weed out the competition to the CIA's secret drug trade.

 

You were fine until you went off the rails in the middle of the second sentence. You have no clue at all.

 

One Mind, the entire world knows that Russia is only a shadow of the old USSR, and certainly has not been a counterweight to American prominence for almost thirty years.

 

Seriously you only posted part of the article to fit your narrative , what are you a reporter for MSNBC?

 

We need the draft. Never thought I would say that back then.

And any deployment over 9 months would necessitate draft induction into the armed forces.
Then Afghanistan will remain our longest war. (Drugs don't count, not gonna discuss)
A Grenada or Panama type action would not necessitate induction.
It was everyone bleeding over Vietnam and not just the poor that got us out.
Not the politicians. They just followed rather than lead a way out.
Osama Bin Laden is still dead. Yet we remain in Afghanistan although he was in Pakistan.

does not know how to exit. ​

 

Its true

They get their reporters from the same liberal journalism puppy mills that all the other newspapers hire from

 

Michael Rupert, an LA policeman and drug enforcement detective busted out our CIA in a city council meeting, where the CIA head was speaking. It seems that when congress will not finance a CIA covert operation our law abiding and respectable CIA will get the money illegally, and operate above the laws and constitution. So, they trafficked coke into america, fueling the crack epidemic in the inner city ghettos, and made a killing on bringing drug into america. This is the same CIA that all presidents need to fear if he were to cross them. For as Schumer told us on national TV, MSNBC, our CIA can get a president(talking of trump) 6 ways from Sunday. So, he told us just how rogue and powerful our CIA has become. And yet neither dems or repubs or our faux free press ever made an issue of this truth. So never doubt we live under fascism, oligarchy. Where our CIA is more powerful than congress or the president in real terms. But who really cares about that? Congress already knew it and are fine with it, and the american people simply could not care less. For the dems loved to hear that our CIA might take down trump, and the GOP would not have minded that either apparently.

The CIA is said to also finance covert operations, outside of gov't oversight, by banking fraud. Basicially our CIA is a criminal organization which means the possibility they have murdered their foes within gov't is probably a given. I am not talking about the patriotic CIA analysts, but of the top tier, where the power resides. And so intel can commit perjury in front of congress and nothing happens, and they even keep their jobs, which would have never happened when we were a republic. The CIA can spy on its own oversight committee, and nothing happens to the ones responsible and they keep their jobs. Perhaps our elected leaders know what would happen to them if they crossed the upper tier of the CIA? But this is even worse than Hitler's SS, or any enforcement used by mass murderers like Stalin. It is ironic that we have become what we fought so hard against once upon a time long ago.

And yet many people in america and here, totally trust the CIA and intel. LOL But they can only do so by a complete and total ignorance and perpetual, chronic amnesia, and IMO, this is chosen and intentional. But the truth is hard to take, and so a delusion is much better, for what else would explain it besides an apathy so deep as to be among the whale sh*t at the bottom of our deepest ocean?

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so when and when did you serve

 

I really liked Ruppert's "Crossing the Rubicon" about 9/11. Great book, we are being so scammed.

 

Agreed, but then do you know the average length of time we've kept military bases in countries that we've conquered? 99 years. If you look at Germany, Japan, the Philippines, Cuba, Panama, etc., we have maintained military bases in those countries for 70 years or more, and counting. So I wouldn't be at all surprised if we keep a military presence in Afghanistan for the next century. About the only country we have conquered and didn't establish a military base in was Mexico.

 

Thats none of your business

 

What about the huge military bases in San Diego?

 

And in Texas. But last I checked, those were both in the United States.

 

You miss history class or something?

 

No, did you miss geography class? We have military bases on land we conquered from Mexico, but we have no military base (and never did) in Mexico.