“Colorblind” Conservative Republicans....

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  1. Brewskier

    Brewskier Well-Known Member

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    You have such a cringeworthy partisan boomer understanding of the issue it’s embarrassing. Blacks supported Republicans back when Democrats most closely represented the white majority. What a concept! That has since changed, but blacks and other groups still vote for their own racial self interest towards whatever group represents them as opposed to whites. What I’m advocating for is for whites to do the same thing, only taking their own side. Not you, though. You have too much financial and ideological investment in your party.
     
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    Surfer Joe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LMAO...Well, you certainly quack like one.
    Check out your posting history.
     
  3. Brewskier

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    I’ll take statistics over your anecdotes. Ethnic minorities aren’t voting for parties that lower their taxes. Quite the opposite.

    You realize you’re alienating a substantial percentage of the white voting base in your push for homosexuals, drugs, and abortion, right? That a large group doesnt want those things? You really think the GOP becoming Democrat-lite is going to bring over enough minorities to counteract the alienation of the only group that consistently votes Republican?
     
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  4. Brewskier

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    Most whites don’t vote the way you do. Most whites don’t think the country will be better from an evolutionary standpoint when it’s majority Hispanic, like you do .
     
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    Bzzzt! Wrong!

    After the Civil War, blacks overwhelming supported Republicans because IT WAS REPUBLICANS WHO FREED THEM FROM SLAVERY.

    They also supported Republicans because in the early 20th-Century it was DEMOCRATS who were instituting Jim Crow laws, poll taxes and other discriminatory measures throughout the South.

    Then Republicans decided to court the Southern white vote, which was heavily Democratic, with all of its racist history. At the same time, non-Southern Democrats became the champions of civil rights. Those two things transferred the black vote from Republicans to Democrats, and the Southern white vote from Democrat to Republican.

    So we already have an historical example to disprove your thesis. Democrats were the party of racism, so blacks voted Republican. That has completely reversed. So clearly, it is possible to win the black vote -- largely by not being dumbass racists.
     
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    “My wife’s son” feels the same way. Thinks the same way.
     
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    Most whites aren't as obsessed with race as you are. They don't view Hispanics as some sort of evolutionary threat. They view them as people. I know that's a shocking concept to you, but there it is.
     
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    I really see no reason to assume the 40% of ineligible blacks would vote any differently than the 60% who do. You certainly have given me no reasons to think otherwise.
     
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    When they keep people like you in the party, yeah they're not going to move. Same when you push the moral authority horse ****.

    No one is pushing for homosexuals, drugs or abortion. They are letting people make their own choices without requiring a cop stick a gun in their faces.
     
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    You don’t even see how you’re agreeing with me. That’s hilarious. I said blacks will vote for their own racial self interest and vote for the anti-white party. All of the examples you listed are examples of this.
     
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    Daniel doesn’t just look at them as people, he views them as superior. Many liberal white males feel the same. It’s embarrassing.

    But whites really should view things in a more racial way, like every other race already does. You don’t even get 97% voting trends in dictatorships. That’s how loyal blacks are to their own race. People like you benefit from other races behaving this way. Time for whites to stop shooting themselves in the foot on this issue.
     
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    Except you have the causation backwards.

    Refusing to vote for people who view you as a group to be oppressed is simply responding to reality, not focusing on "racial self interest." And it's not "anti-white", either. There is nothing inherent in being white that requires the oppression of other races.

    It was whites who enslaved blacks. It was whites who viewed freed blacks as a threat and passed laws to "keep them in their place." It was whites pushing the white/black divide. Reacting to that reality does not make one racist or anti-white; it is RESPONDING to anti-black racism.

    I'm white. I don't identify myself politically by race, but I would refuse to vote for an avowedly anti-white candidate. That's not because I'm "anti-black" or voting out of some sort of racial tribal identity; it's because that person is pushing policies that would harm me.
     
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    You can’t even answer my question. I’m asking you how much of the white vote are you willing to alienate in the hope of getting more minorities. What percentage of minorities do you think are going to support a Democrat-lite GOP?
     
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    Dont blame business when government fails to secure the border and allows millions of illegal aliensto come into this country
     
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    Another asinine post on your part. I just look at Nazi and KKK as dicks. Why would I want to support candidates who support them?
     
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    The main point is that blacks are going to vote for the opposite party of the party perceived to represent whites and their interests. All of the examples you listed support this conclusion.

    You voted for Obama twice. There goes that theory.
     
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    You go beyond that. Shall I dig up your old posts about how Hispanics have evolutionary advantages that make them better for America than whites?
     
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    Not at all. It means blacks are going to vote against whichever party is perceived to represent people who want to oppress them. There is nothing inherently "anti-white" about not wanting to be oppressed.

    The Democratic party is/was heavily white, yet blacks support it. Thus blowing another hole in your theory.

    Right, because Obama was "anti-white". Pull the other one.
     
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    You're assuming that a) there is such a thing as "the white vote" b) that repealing prohibition while maintaining that drug use is a bad idea is going to alienate a significant percentage of voters enough for them to either stay home or vote for bernie sanders c) that keeping abortion status quo (viability, meaning it will eventually go away on its own) will do same d) that leaving the gays at status quo (equal citizens) will do likewise.
     
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    They believe whites as a group oppress them. The only way for a white person to convince them otherwise is to act like you and intentionally harm your own group’s interests.

    Of course he was. He explicitly said to ignore the white voting base when running for re-election and to focus on minorities.
     
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    Because conservatism isn’t a color. Expecting an entire race to vote a party because of their color ignores why so many people vote for those ideals they feel benefit them most. Every voter should be voting based on their ideals. It is disgustingly presumptuous that liberals berate blacks who vote conservative and Whites would become the same under the idea that color = party. We are free to choose and need to remain that way.
     
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    That's it. Maybe there is no reason for the 40% to vote for either party, so it makes no sense whatsoever to assume how they'd vote anyway. The same percentage amount of whites sat out the election. Maybe the choice between Hilary and Trump wasn't a choice at all for them. :shrug:.
     
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    A) so there can be a black vote, a Hispanic vote, but not a white vote? Who says?

    B-d) you don’t think a lot of whites are going to be alienated? That they are just going to accept these things and not vote for another party? How many minorities are going to go for Democrat-lite?
     
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    An entire race already votes for a party. Blacks vote almost 100% for Democrats. It is completely possible for Republicans to get 75%+ of white voters. Whites just need to vote for their own racial self interest the way other groups do.
     

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