“DOJ tries to oust US attorney investigating Trump allies”

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  1. struth

    struth Well-Known Member

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    we have already been down this.
     
  2. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    So if there’s no special counsel, the president can’t be investigated because he can just fire anyone who digs into him or his friends.
     
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    Ah yes, you claim it can’t happen even though you admit it has happened lol
     
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    it happened illegally. i can happen illegally...but that opens the door to impeachment. so while true people ca commit illegal acts. trump didn’t.

    this isn’t about a special prosecutor, trump wasn’t being investigation by the SDNY
     
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    Illegally, so it then is on the trump admin to enforce the law assuming they can’t find an appeals judge who is sympathetic.
    And yes, the SDNY who he can definitely fire for investigating his lawyer
    No conflicts there! Lol
     
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    i think you are confusing some illegal with something criminal...but regardless if he illegally fired a SP, one would be reappointed and continue on just like what happen with nixon.

    he can fire him for whatever he wants. he will simply be replaced. trump has no power over grand juries either
     
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    Even Chris Christie acknowledges that investigations by the SDNY pose a threat to Trump.
     
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    yeah he said that a year and a half ago. nothing has happened
     
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    This is not about Special Counsels, this about US Attorney's, in this case a temporary US Attorney, focus and stay on topic.
     
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    So, the "reason" for firing Berman is now semi-official....

    Any further doubt that this is the shittiest administration in history to work for, even IF this isn't a corrupt move, which I still suspect..

    SNIP
    Instead, Trump fired Berman because he refused to transfer willingly to another post in order to allow for the appointment of current Securities and Exchange Commission Chairman Jay Clayton to Berman’s post, said White House spokeswoman Kayleigh McEnany.

    “Mr. Clayton wanted to go back to New York City and we wanted to keep him in government,” McEnany said at a White House press briefing.
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/22/tru...y-job-to-sec-chairman-white-house-claims.html

    So, THIS is the only job in NYC for somebody who wants to work in the US Goverment??

    What a pile of ****ing ******* shithead *********kers...

    3 things I hope happen

    1. The guy gets slammed in the Senate, either by Lindsey or somebody else
    2. If somehow confirmed by the sheep, I except Mr. Clayton will not be treated kindly upon his arrival.
    3. I hope Berman shows up to talk with Nadler on Wednesday. He will not talk about active cases, but he can certainly dish on this administration if he chooses, since loyalty cuts both ways...

    Biden 2020... vote early and often....
     
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    if he was still if biden won he’d be fired by biden.

    the guy was offered a unilateral transfer , he refused to leave
     
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    Yes one investigating trumps lawyer. He’s lucky his supporters have no principles and won’t mind this obvious conflict of firing the guy investigating him a few months before the election. Good thing congress can’t investigate right?
     
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    You mean he didn’t wanna let trump obstruct his investigation. Obviously he was good at his job or they wouldn’t offer to transfer him someplace he won’t be looking into trumps lawyer.
     
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    any investigation is being run by AUSA’s and by a grand jury.

    according to rudy, he’s not gotten a target letter nor has anything been subpended...the entire idea that he is even being investigated could be another left wing hoax
     
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    Investigations can take longer than that; they want an airtight case.
     
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    true, it’s sometimes possible that’s part of the reason we the impeachment was a hoax...the dems rushed it, but when they had to present their case had nothing
     
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    False equivalence.
     
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    not it was rushed
     
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    Fake News. He's gone.

    It is a conventional indulgence to a dumped public official to frame the removal as a resignation, or to couch it ambiguously, so it is unclear whether the official decided to leave or was pushed out.

    Berman was having none of that, so he was fired. At that point he resigned.

    Berman was sacked because he is a jackass. Berman refused to sign a letter criticizing New York Mayor Bill de Blasio for placing major restrictions on religious gatherings. The next day Barr announced that he would be replaced.

    Justice Department supervisors asked both Berman and Eric Dreiband, the Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights, to sign the letter. Berman refused. Eric signed the letter, and it was sent to de Blasio on Friday evening. A few hours later Berman was sacked.
     
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    congress can investigate and ask for a special counsel if they want one
     
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    Congress can investigate possible crimes?
     
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    Berman is NOT a special prosecutor, he is a temporary US Attorney, learn the difference.[/QUOTE]
    Just realized you s thought my question about the state was a statement. I’m happy to explain ? And what they mean in the English language to you sometime
     
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    they can conduct oversight, not criminal probes. i suppose you are right they have no oversight over rudy....who the SDNY hasn’t decided to investigate
     
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    They can and did in this case because Congress gave them that option in the event that the President does not name a Senate approved candidate or the president another interim to replace one named not by the president but by the attorney general which is a one shot 120 day appointment. A president's interim appointments are for 1 year. The number 2 takes over in the event of the interim's removal or death until a person is named but that was not the case here, the 120 days expired, there was no one named by the president and by law the Judges from the district acted.
    Furthermore, the constitution gives the power of removal to the appointers in this case the judges, but there exists a law giving the president the right to fire prosecutors. It's never been tested in the Supreme Court because it's a rare thing and usually a solution can be reached. That is why Barr had to get Trump's official authority to fire him and the threat of it being dragged to the Supreme Court is why Barr backed down and named the Berman's number two the interim and not Trump's golfing buddy who is without prosecution experience.
    My money is that number two will be indicting Rudi shortly and before McConnell gets another chance to ignore his duty to vet a candidate. Actually, with the press about this, once Rudi's indictment comes down there will be a lot of Republican senators more than a little uneasy about confirming Trump's inexperienced golfing buddy to a position that watches over several of the companies he has defended in court. The list of conflicts of interest is way too long.
     
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    my guess is rudy never gets indicted and the law does not give the judicial branch the authority to fire, its appoints when the senate fails to act in certain cases.

    the deputy was going to take over anyway until the president’s pick got approved
     

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