A ranking of the most immoral people ever, based on number of Jews harmed.

One good barometer of how moral a person is is when they have power over people, how do they treat minority religious groups, such as Jews.

Here’s a rough ranking of the most immoral people to have ever lived, based on the above criteria, and a count of how many Jews they have (or will see) get brutally tortured or killed:

1. JESUS: Over a hundred million.
Over a hundred millions Jews (however many have ever lived) will allegedly be eventually horrifically tortured (for unlimited numbers of lifetimes, no less) because of his utter hatred for Jews.
This is more Jews than all others put together. They are specifically harmed because of their Jewish belief, they are not just casualties in some war or something. Instead of “extending” their life (in the supposed "afterlife") if you will, he will see to it that any chance of a decent future life is effectively ended, in the worse way imaginable. Jesus is worse than Hitler in this respect.

2. HITLER: 6 million+-.
Like Jesus, he hated Jews with a passion. Harmed only a tiny fraction of the Jews that Jesus will (allegedly) harm, so he was not as dangerous as Jesus. Jews would WISH to just be sentenced to Hitler’s torture chambers rather than face a period of time that’s infinitely longer in what is, effectively, Jesus’ torture chambers.

3. PEOPLE ACTING IN THE NAME OF JESUS (Crusades, etc.): untold numbers.
An all-powerful entity who was moral and was real, if people acted in his name to slaughter untold numbers of innocent people, would of course simply expressly inform his followers that they are doing the wrong thing.

4. PEOPLE ACTING IN THE NAME OF MOHAMMAD/”ALLAH”: untold numbers.
An all-powerful entity who was moral and was real, if people acted in his name to slaughter untold numbers of innocent people, would of course simply expressly inform his followers that they are doing the wrong thing.

5. MOHAMMAD: at least 600 – 900....probably thousands.
Those were captive Jews at Banu Qurayza (under Mohammad’s control), plus he slaughtered untold numbers of others who would not worship his imaginary friend.
That’s similar hatred to Jesus’ hatred. Mohammad and Jesus are both immoral.

6. SADDAM: less than Hitler/Jesus/Mohammad.
He fired 39 scud-missiles at Israel, with surprisingly few casualties. Like Jesus/Hitler/Mohammad, he approved of torture and totalitarian rule.

7. CHARLES MANSON: uh, way less than the above-mentioned names, if any.
So Jesus/Hitler/Mohammad/Saddam and other savages were far more immoral than Charles Manson.


Any names to add to this list of shame?

 

The Gospels reveal that Abraham, Elijah and Moses are in heaven. How do you think those guys got to heaven when they weren't Christians?

 

Add the bibi Netanyahu.


That pig Zionist is about to get Israel wiped off the map.

Them sobs are exporting jews that ain't white.

 

Not a one of them have gone anywhere.

 

what a ridiculous premise.

 

funny, but I thought to be a christian you had to believe in christ.
I am pretty sure Ol' Mos thought he was a hebrew, at least according to the book. does that mean hebrews go to heaven as well, even tho they don't believe Jesus was the messiah?


I guess this is the equivalent of Islam claiming abraham, elijah, moses, jesus et.al. as prophets and muslims.

 

See? Killing Jews is OK. They'll go to heaven anyway. Presumably, this also applies to killing Christians.

 

What are you talking about? Everyone knows the Jews are the chosen people of Yahweh. Duuuuuhhhhhhh! xD

 

yah, we dont believe that sh't

 

yah, we dont believe that sh't

 

yah, we dont believe that sh't

 

Christianity is the fulfillment of Juaism. Islam ,not so much. It's believed that all the heroes of the OT went to heaven. Jesus quoted OT figures several times, so I would say they where alright in his book.

 

Proverbs 30:3-4 MSG) = “I flunked ‘wisdom.’
I see no evidence of a holy God.
Has anyone ever seen Anyone
climb into Heaven and take charge?
grab the winds and control them?
gather the rains in his bucket?
stake out the ends of the earth?
Just tell me his name, tell me the names of his sons.
Come on now—tell me!”

 

It easy to extend that list. As soon as something went wrong in the last 1500 years Jews were blamed. Christians only went trough that for 200-300 years.

So you can find a anti-semitic pogrom with any major crisis in any country. I'd not rule out French Kings and German Emperors in the middle-ages. I must admit, that although I'm a historian, this is actually not my field of expertise. And I do not recall the specific years. Starting 1350 till 1500 there was a big pogrom in the Holy Roman Empire and many Jews (we're talking about thousands) were killed. The rest was forced to leave their home and find new ones in another country. It was easy to blame "the people who killed God" for the plague for some reason. Also we know out of documents that in the 14th and 15th century there was some like a small "ice age" in Europe so production of food was really low. About 25-33% of all the inhabitants of Europe died during that time.

But numbers in the middle-ages might seem small but they are not. Only a few million people lived in Europe at that time and "a couple thousand" was percentage wise numbers you couldn't imagine for an entire region...

 

A moment of doubt perhaps? There is nothing wrong with that. Quoting a mere 2 verses from Proverbs proves nothing. Job said similar things.

 

Jews where really good with money since the Pope forbid any Christians getting involved in any risky investments. Killing Jews was a convenient way by some to get rid of any nasty debts.

The population of Europe at that time was around 75 million, and large cities such as Venice had in excess of 100 thousand people.

 

This is true. To be fair the Catholic church didn't frowned upon risky business. The said that charging interest was wrong simply because there was a near 0% inflation in the middle ages. So charging interest was considered immoral by the Catholic church.

The population number of Europe was indeed around 75 million in 1500 but it used to be 71 million in 1300 and fell to 37 million in 1400. So the number fell quite substantially in one century. The example of Venice is not fair, because at that point and time it was one of the biggest cities in the world. This cannot be used as a standard for Europe because only a few cities like Constantinople and Paris outside Italy actually cracked the 100,000 inhabitant mark. At least to my knowledge

The Jewish community got hit quite hard, because they primarily lived in cities. They needed the protection only powerful people (like dukes, bishops, kings, etc.) could provide in exchange for huge taxes. So the Jewish community lived primarily in cities with a powerful local authority to protect them. We estimate that probably less than 20% of the people who lived in cities. The Italian cities are an exception because they were much bigger in size. For example in the Holy Roman Empire we are talking about 3000 cities of which 94% were smaller than 2,000 inhabitants. Only 5% lived in cities with 2,000 - 10,000 inhabitants. Cologne being the biggest city back then with about 40,000 inhabitants.

So let's do the math with that example. In the Holy Roman Empire out of estimated 18 million in 1300 only 20% of the people lived in cities. So of those roughly 3.6 million people who lived in cities and of those only 5% lived in bigger cities. Roughly 180,000 people lived in cities with 2000 or more inhabitants in the Holy Roman Empire. And it was very likely that you can find pretty much the whole Jewish community among those 180,000. I don't know how big the percentage of the Jewish community was back then, but I guess high single digit numbers. Maybe 10 - 12%; but I have to ask my professor who's a specialist in that topic. But to make it fair: Let's say you have 10,000 to 20,000 Jews living in those few cities and a few thousand get killed. We are talking about huge percentage numbers. At the same time Philip IV. throws out 100,000 Jews living in France in 1306, of whom some remained in France until they finally got banned by Charles VI. in 1394. A couple of decades later the same thing follows in the Holy Roman Empire.

The numbers may not seem as significant as they might seem today, but in that time and age it was surely one of the most brutal pogroms many people fell victim to. I remember my professor telling me that in the second half of the 15th century the entire Jewish community of Vienna got drowned.

 

Jesus was a nut, but He never hurt anybody. Don't blame Him for the absurd things people write about Him. He was long dead before any of that stuff was invented.

 

Why, have you seen them wandering around your ghetto?

 

some folk believe that when they die, they go to heaven/hell and magic places with purdee lil'angels flying around

i just pointed out that "not a one of them have gone anywhere.'

 

some folk believe that when they die, they go to heaven/hell and magic places with purdee lil'angels flying around

i just pointed out that "not a one of them have gone anywhere.'

 

How about we test that hypothesis with any minority religious group OTHER THAN JEWS? Inherent in your OP is the assumption that in none of these cases were the Jews doing anything to make any of these people dislike them. It's "just cuz they're immoral". Well, that immorality should be manifesting on other people too, not just Jews, if the Jews haven't brought it on themselves in any way.

 

This is dumb. I'm sorry, but it is. It's literally pointless, not to mention ethno-centric. The best way to measure how immoral someone is is by measuring the number of people they've harmed period.

 

I rank the Rabbi as number one here.

If they had been more intellectually honest and less greedily fearful of losing their tithe paying flock in 32AD, they would have recognized Christ as ther Elijah, returned as had been promised.

Instead, they have maintained this ridiculous argument against the messiah ben Joseph only because the Christians misinterpreted Christ as the messiah ben David.
By focusing only one what the Christians claimed, they avoiding see the truth about 32Ad themselves:




They both did the same miracles, which was traditional supposed to identify Elijah when would come back.

Both Elijah and Jesus raised the dead


Both Elijah and Jesus were immortal.

Both Elijah and Jesus disappeared from the foot of a mountain.

Both Elijah and Jesus ascended into Heaven before witnesses.

Both Elijah and Jesus troubled Israel.

Both Elijah and Jesus were hunted down by the Jewish authorities.

Both Elijah and Jesus hid in a cave/tomb.

Both Elijah and Jesus pondered in the wilderness 40 days.

Both Elijah and Jesus walked on the water.

Both wrote letters to people on Earth after they had ascended.

Both appointed a successor, Elisha by Elijah, and Peter, by Christ.

Both were hunted by the Jewish authorities

Both gave a successor the power to raise the dead

Both gave a successor a symbolic authority, the cloak to one, the keys to the other.

Both asked that the this "cup" be taken from them.

Both are said to have had miraculous births.

Both multiplied the meal for many people they feed in the crowd

Both destroyed the pagan worshippers and priests, one Baal, the other, the Pantheon of Rome.

Both were promised faithfulness three times, Elisha in the former and Peter, in the latter.

 

Your whole post is irrelevant, off topic and not even true.