His book, Arial- encyclopedia about the Land of Israel, is been used by the Isreali Universities all over Israel. I dont care about what the Bible says, if I can be honest, so please dont try to use against me this card. Israel is not slaughtering, but killing terrorists, and to kill terrorists that hide behind innocent civilians, Israel is doing anything to prevent killing innocent population, as highly respected military exparts stated after the last operation in Gaza. The "indigenous people" you are referring to came from Arab countries that first started in the 7th century, when there already were in the Land of Israel Jews and Christians, which got slaughtered by those Arabs and Muhammad in the Arab conquest in the region.
they were converted aanst their will, and even there are alot of such "Arabs" that are still doing the Jewish costums. (which means they are Crypto-Jews).
I encourage all who have been duped by the blatant falsehoods of "murderous, plundering Muslims" to read the more reputable works on the Crusades such as "God's Wars" by Christopher Tyerman Even a casual comparison between the Crusader conquest of Jerusalem & Saladin's quickly dispels the relentless Hasbara myth of "Slaughtering Muslims: “Siege of Jerusalem (1187)” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Jerusalem_(1187 EXCERPTS "On Balian's orders the Crusaders surrendered the city to Saladin's army on October 2. The take-over of the city was relatively peaceful especially in contrast to the Crusader siege of the city in 1099. Saladin allowed many of the noble women of the city to leave without paying any ransom. For example, a Byzantine queen living a monastic life in the city was allowed to leave the city with her retinue and associates as also Sibylla, the queen of Jerusalem and wife of the captured King Guy. Saladin also granted her safe passage to visit her captive husband in Nablus. The Native Christians were allowed to remain in the city while those of Crusader origin were allowed to leave Jerusalem for other lands along with their goods through a safe passage via Akko by paying a ransom of 10 dinars. The wealthy including the Latin patriarch of Jerusalem, Heraclius left with treasure-laden wagons and relics from the Church of the Holy Sepulchre. The Crusaders took the ornaments and treasures of their churches with them. " CONTINUED - - - - - - - Accounts of the earlier Crusader conquest of Jerusalem describe rivers of blood & body parts up to the knees of the horses. Saladin's conquest was entirely different. So much for those "plundering, murderous, slaughtering, evil Muslims"
so all of the Palestinians are really Jews, and therefore have the right to soveriegnty in the West Bank.
Not all of the "Palestinains" are Jews, but there are alot of "Palestinians" that are Jews, therefore, they have the right to soveriegnty as the document of the Mandate stateed. Which means that those Crypto-Jews have the right to sevoriegnty in the form of the National Home of the Jewish people.
In the Crusader conquest, the Crusaders were indeed brutal and slaughter alot of people, but it is not cotradicting that Muhammad beheaded people's head etc. (it is all according to the holy books of the Muslims).
Well technically that's not true.The independant state of Palestine came into existance on the termination of the Mandate. Immediately, however, the Jewish colonist minority seceeded from Palestine by declaring their own "state"; thus triggering intervention by the neighbouring states in an attempt to restore order. Well no it wasn't, the Romans weren't in to "mass deportations" it messed with the tax revenue. Troublesome leaders, rebels, and other troublemakers were certainly killed or sold into slavery, the remaining population was generally left alone. By the time of the Judean war, there were already thriving communities of religious converts to Judaism and Christianity throughout the Roman Empire; these were untouched unless they caused trouble to the authorities.
With respect, in the 7th century CE, nobody batted an eyelid when someone was beheaded, impaled, flayed alive, burned to death, hung drawn and quartered, etc. Beheading was not restricted to Muslims.
So that's a, "No, I can't provide examples of these so called left wing academics who worship Ze'ev Vilnaj" Thought not, thanks. Again this is a myth, Byzantine Palestine was conquered rapidly and peacefully after the Arabs beat the Byzantine armies in the field. The towns and cities surrendered without much fighting, with the exception of Ceasarea which held out until 640CE. Byzantine elites were given the option of converting or going into exile, most chose to leave and arab nobles took over their vacant estates. The Muslim armies kept apart from the population as a rule, and most went on to settle in Mesopotamia, the new Arab noble landowners, just replaced the Byzantine noble landowners. The lower orders carried on as before. It took around 200 years for Islam to replace Christianity and Judaism as the dominant religion in the area. Most of the native population ended up converting to Islam voluntarily, if only to avoid taxation. The was also some migration, there always is over 200 years, but to suggest the natives were slaughtered is wildly incorrect.
I never used the word "worship". I only said that Ze'ev Vilnay is considered as the greatest researcher of the Land of Israel and it's antiques. Not all converted voluntarily, but after spaciel taxs (skull taxs) and threats on the non-Muslims, they decided to convert to Islam but in their homes they still followed Christianity/Judaism. Muhammad and it's army killed alot of Christians and Jews in his conquest, according to the holy books of Islam. And it is not what I made up, but this is what the Muslims themselves say. - - - Updated - - - No I didnt. I only said that Muslim beheaded people's heads, and it's correct.
I can think of only 1 other part of the human anatomy that one would "behead" that wouldn't be the "head"/cranium......(ouch!) I think that, try as you might, you will have a difficult task in ascertaining that any, one, single Religious group, Ethnic Group, Nationality etc has proven to be more brutal, ruthless & bloodthirsty than another. (There should be plenty of smiting & slaughtering in the O.T to sate even the most ghoulish of palates) Thanks
When and where did I said that only Islam is brutal? Meanwhile, between the three big religions, only Islam has continue it's ways like beheading people's heads, stone people, attack women etc. What you wrote here is in any way does not contradict what I wrote.
Until relatively recently, Extra- Biblical sources have been disregarded by Western, Christian Archeologists who, as I stated in an earlier Post, set about their work with :"a Bible in one hand & a shovel in the other" While the mantra: "there never was a Palestine" has become popular fodder for those who only learn by mimicking other Posts, according to the meticulous Egyptian record keepers, there was never a "Kingdom of Israel" except in one possible mention of dubious translation: Take Egypt out and the whole structure of the(*)Israelites tale would instantly fall apart. https://ashraf62.wordpress.com/2012/03/17/in-ancient-egypt-canaan-revisited-without-israel/ EXCERPT Did you know that Egypt is(*)mentioned in the Holy Bible approximately 700 times (Egypt: 595 times, Egyptian(s): 120 times). Obviously, Egypt must have played a vital role in the history of the Hebrews otherwise it wouldnt have been such a recurring theme in the Jewish holy book. Egypt was, and still is, the magnificent overture to the Israelites story. Take Egypt out and the whole structure of the(*)Israelites tale would instantly fall. But on the other hand, do you know how many times Israel or the Israelites were mentioned in the ancient Egyptian records? Well, and according to history and the ancient Egyptian meticulous records, .... once or maybe none at all.CONTINUED You're also right about the mythical "Mass Deportations" of the Romans as anyone who is familiar with Levantine geography knows there are innumerable places to hide. It was also not the Roman M.O. & there were much more easily managed / taxed colonies. I mentioned in an earlier Post that the sea level was also about 60' lower 10,000 years ago (ergo, probably 30' 5,000 years ago) That fact, alone poses a lot of questions & dispels a lot of popular lore since some of the most significant cities have been port cities. All of this is fascinating material & much more pleasant to discuss without rancor. Thanks
Relax, I didn't say that you said "...that only Islam is brutal" but you just did say: "only Islam has continue it's ways like beheading people's heads, stone people, attack women etc." Apparently, there are more than a few Jewish, Israeli leaders who would like to continue: "....... ways like beheading people's heads, stone people, attack women etc" “Israeli Deputy Knesset Speaker Moshe Feiglin Calls for Ethnic Cleansing of Gaza” http://www.digitaljournal.com/news/...s-for-ethnic-cleansing-of-gaza/article/392650 - - - - - - There are lots of ways to "behead", "stone", "attack women" & inflict far more painful & barbaric deaths & unlike the omnipresent (& usually phony) "Beheading" Photo-Ops, the prize for foreign subsidized mass slaughter goes to ISIL / Daesh as well as IDF & IAF: Thousands of civilians were mutilated, crushed, suffocated & burned to death during the carefully planned, systematic massacres in Gaza ("Cast Lead", "Pillar of Cloud", "Protective Edge" etc) in which torturous, banned Genotoxic, chemical ordinance & illegal D.I.M.E. bombs were used. Countless Palestinians continue to die long, slow & painful deaths from the incurable wounds inflicted by Israel's experimental Genotoxic / Chemical weapons alone: - - - - - - “Israel using banned weapons in Gaza: Medical sources” http://www.aa.com.tr/en/world/356451--israel-using-banned-weapons-in-gaza-medical-sources EXCERPT “Eyewitnesses, meanwhile, have reported that Israeli airstrikes had incinerated the bodies of Palestinians who happened to be near targeted sites. Israeli warplanes, they added, were using missiles that destroy their victims' bodies, often cutting them to pieces. Some activists posted photos of victims online, advising the fainthearted not to look at them. Photos showed Palestinians whose limbs had been blown off and others whose bodies looked as if they had been subject to chemical attack. Palestinian doctors say the Israeli airstrikes had incinerated the bodies of a large number of Palestinians, while a number of others had lost limbs. They added that the conditions of victims admitted to hospital revealed that Israel was using internationally-proscribed weapons in its current war on the embattled Gaza Strip.”CONTINUED - - - - - - Can you think of any more brutal, sadistic & ruthless way of killing than experimental weapons in which your human flesh falls: '...off like jelly"? [1] “Medical personnel claim Israel tested new weapons during attacks on Gaza” http://www.irishtimes.com/news/worl...-new-weapons-during-attacks-on-gaza-1.1919645 EXCERPTS “Doctors and an ambulance officer believe Israel tested new weapons during its July 8th – August 26th assault on the Gaza Strip. “The five children from the al-Jaal family in Zeitoun were the strangest thing I ever saw in my life.” The room where three girls and two boys... ... “Their bodies were hot. Their hair and skin were black liked charred wood. When their parents arrived at the hospital, they didn’t recognise them,” Dr Sobhi Skaik, chief surgeon and medical director at Shifa hospital and a member of the Royal College of Surgeons in Edinburgh, told me earlier: “We saw third-degree burns that cannot be explained; neither flame burns nor chemical burns. It was as if the patient became mummified, and most of them died. Their skin blackened and their tissue became tough and solid. I saw dozens of patients like this in the intensive care unit, . “I saw more than a dozen bodies that looked normal, with no marks or wounds. But when we touched them they were slippery. If you tried to pick them up, the flesh fell off like jelly. We had to roll them in blankets.” . “In previous wars, we could treat most of the wounded,” says Dr Skaik. “This time, the number and magnitude of wounds was far greater. One third were dead on arrival.”CONTINUED To ensure that the maximum number of civilians die the most painful forms of deaths, The Israeli government bans the most qualified Dr. to treat them. I'll take death by beheading over death via illegal Israeli chemical weapons anytime. - - - - - - I wanted to drop this Off Topic exchange when I stated that no single, Religion, Nationality or Ethnic Group (including Israeli Jews) was intrinsically more ruthless than another & would like to do so now. Thanks
Moshe Feiglin is not in the current Knesset nor in the government, Hence, what he said has no relevence for the current Knesset/government. I already responded for such claims of "the IDF tested new weapons on live peoplein our previous disscusion: http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=431658&page=38&p=1065557454#post1065557454 Here is another comment from out previous disscusion where I replied to such claim: http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=431658&page=32&p=1065550638#post1065550638 You can read the rest of my replies to such claims in the disscusion I directed you to.
So since Eugene Rostow no longer works for the US State Department, his views no longer matter and have no relevance to the current US foreign policy
was....as in past tense. his views no longer matter the day he left the US State Dept, as per your logic about Feiglin
His views were according to the International law, and since he was an international law expert, then his view metters regarding international law metters. (he was, because he died and not because he stopped been international law expert)
