All Things Confederate (CSA)

You really want to discuss Lawrence Kansas?

 

"Tranquility" meaning "let us enslave and physically abuse and, when we see fit, kill black women and children" and "forced to accept the Northern point" meaning "maybe don't do that." No, you haven't thought this through. Not unless you accept the racial supremacism of the faction you are actively defending.

 

And there you are people: the justification of Southern terrorists killing, physically abusing, raping, and enslaving men, women, and children, as long as their skin was the wrong color.

 

Lol...Indeed. They still can't get over losing the civil war just like crybaby trump can't get over losing the election.
No wonder white supremacists are attracted to trump. What a bunch of bitter, whiny losers.

 

Apples and Oranges (no pun intended) The Democrat Party was and is the party of slavery, Jim Crow, and Segregation. Do not try and rewrite history to defend your ideology!

 

Wait, is that the one where the domestic terrorist John Brown supplied weaponry to anti-slavers, who then broke their compatriots out of prison, a form of insurrection? The point is this: what John Brown and those of ilk did was domestic terrorism: they killed unsuspecting women, children and men. It is offensive that you are trying to compare Bleeding Kansas to what they did.

 

I see no mention of terrorists mentioned in the secession document.
I do see 3 mentions of murder. 1 is about Mexicans.
2 have to do with slavery.
I suspect there was a mini war going on before full secession in trying to free slaves. In other words, people were trying to free slaves and remove them from the area and the slave owners tried to prevent that.

Next!

 

Slavery was the law of the land. It was a perfectly legal institution. You cannot have a country by allowing Northern domestic terrorists to kill women and children because you don't like what is protected under the law. This thinking, ladies and gentlemen, is why the South. Thank you for playing.

 

The South was worried it would no longer be. And thus they rebelled against our country. You seem perfectly fine with Southern terrorists killing, raping, and enslaving women and children as long as they had dark skin. Thanks for defending the terrorists who rebelled against our country to protect their "right" to kill, rape, and enslave black folk. Thank you for "playing" the treason game.

 

Just because they did not say the word "terrorist" or any of its variants, it does not mean it was not addressed.

Here. Let me make it easy for you.

Texas:

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By the disloyalty of the Northern States and their citizens and the imbecility of the Federal Government, infamous combinations of incendiaries and outlaws have been permitted in those States and the common territory of Kansas to trample upon the federal laws, to war upon the lives and property of Southern citizens in that territory, and finally, by violence and mob law, to usurp the possession of the same as exclusively the property of the Northern States.
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They have for years past encouraged and sustained lawless organizations to steal our slaves and prevent their recapture, and have repeatedly murdered Southern citizens while lawfully seeking their rendition.

They have invaded Southern soil and murdered unoffending citizens, and through the press their leading men and a fanatical pulpit have bestowed praise upon the actors and assassins in these crimes, while the governors of several of their States have refused to deliver parties implicated and indicted for participation in such offenses, upon the legal demands of the States aggrieved.
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Georgia:

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Claimants are murdered with impunity; officers of the law are beaten by frantic mobs instigated by inflammatory appeals from persons holding the highest public employment in these States, and supported by legislation in conflict with the clearest provisions of the Constitution, and even the ordinary principles of humanity. In several of our confederate States a citizen cannot travel the highway with his servant who may voluntarily accompany him, without being declared by law a felon and being subjected to infamous punishments. It is difficult to perceive how we could suffer more by the hostility than by the fraternity of such brethren.
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For twenty years past the abolitionists and their allies in the Northern States have been engaged in constant efforts to subvert our institutions and to excite insurrection and servile war among us. They have sent emissaries among us for the accomplishment of these purposes. Some of these efforts have received the public sanction of a majority of the leading men of the Republican party in the national councils, the same men who are now proposed as our rulers. These efforts have in one instance led to the actual invasion of one of the slave-holding States, and those of the murderers and incendiaries who escaped public justice by flight have found fraternal protection among our Northern confederates.

These are the same men who say the Union shall be preserved.
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South Carolina:

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The States of Ohio and Iowa have refused to surrender to justice fugitives charged with murder, and with inciting servile insurrection in the State of Virginia. Thus the constituted compact has been deliberately broken and disregarded by the non-slaveholding States, and the consequence follows that South Carolina is released from her obligation.

The ends for which the Constitution was framed are declared by itself to be "to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity."
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So, you are just going to stick with the programming then? Regardless.

 

Didn't bother to read what those same docs have to say about slavery, huh?

 

And you seem perfectly fine with Northern terrorists murdering women and children. Thank you for defending the terrorists who forced our nation into a Civil War, in which scores of thousands, both soldier and civilian, perished.

 

Then you haven't read.

I've never defended the Confederate terrorists who forced us into civil war in their attempt to preserve their violence, murder, torture, rape, etc. against black men, women and children. You should stop doing so.

 

Slavery was one issue
Yous people make it into the only issue.
How about uploading for the Board what some of those
Not Slavery issues were. The gauntlet has been thrown

Britain would pay better for southern cotton
than Yankee factories, don'tchyaknow
Freedom of Markets is taken. Try another Not Slavery issue(s).



Moi
Defender of Truthiness

That's taken too ​

 

Have you ever stopped to think that slavery is a morally reprehensible institution? That no person has the right to own another person. When I was a little kid and first heard about slavery I was sickened by the thought. Yet here we are, grown adults defending it as a justifiable way to make a profit.

 

THEY made it the PRIMARY ISSUE. All I'm doing is agreeing with what they had to say about themselves. And you are trying to argue against both me and the contemporary sources.

If any non-slavery issue had risen to the same importance among contemporary Confederate sources, I would have mentioned it. There were no other specific sources that rose to that level in their minds. Why have you consistently failed to provide any contemporary, primary source?

 

I am not defending it: I am arguing against how Northerners were trying to stop it. That's two separate things that have been lost on you and others on your side. It's the lack of understanding the nuance. Me being not okay with Northern terrorists killing women and children in the name of ending slavery is not me defending slavery. That is not only a sophistical argument; it is an offensive one.

 

Say, "I am very sorry, Mr. Xyce, for Northern terrorists pushing our nation into Civil War by killing women and children."

It's okay. I'll wait.

 

The South rebelled against our country in order to preserve their "right" to kill, rape, beat, and enslave men, women, and children. Let us know when you are capable of coming to terms with that reality. I don't know that will ever happen. Why is it that you only care about the lives of the women and children of slaveowning families and you don't give the slightest **** about the lives of women and children of enslaved families?

 

I see, some more of that myth from 2012 at play.

 

They were preserving the Constitution and federal law. If Northerners did not like it, there was a constitutional way to do so; instead they celebrated domestic terrorists killing women and children to try to force, through terrorism, their ideology.

 

Pure historical ignorance. They changed our Constitution after they left and did so primarily to preserve slavery.

The South feared the North would use a Constitutional way to do so. That's why they left our country. Again, they ****ing said so.

You are defending those who only ever lived for racist terrorism and who defended terrorism to preserve their terrorist way of life.

 

Are you claiming that the South is any less American than you are?

 

Okay, okay, we get it, you are fine with your programming. Don’t worry, there seems to be a built in failsafe.