All Things Confederate (CSA)

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  1. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    All States secession documents stated slavery as a reason for secession.
    Next!!
     
  2. Xyce

    Xyce Well-Known Member

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    Ah, this is boring.

    We're running around in circles on this one.

    If you are not getting the nuance at this point, you're not going to get it at all.

    Back to just posting about the CSA.

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  3. dairyair

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    Yes, because the bottom line, Slavery was a main issue in the secession states. Every last one of them.
    And those states military, attacked the USA.
     
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  4. Xyce

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    Why is there a comma in this sentence?
     
  5. kungfuliberal

    kungfuliberal Well-Known Member

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    :roflol: What a bunch of sore losers! Generational, no less. Hysterical!
     
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    Letter from John Mosby
    In a letter dated June 9, 1894, former Confederate colonel John Mosby writes to Dr. Aristides Monteiro, the surgeon who served under him during the Civil War, that slavery was certainly a cause of the war, despite protests by others to the contrary: "I notice that … [one Lost Cause apologist] says the charge that the South went to war for slavery is 'a slanderous accusation.' I always understood that we went to War on account of the thing we quarreled with the North about. I never heard of any other cause of quarrel than slavery." Mosby had little interest in war monuments, writing that they were "both a waste of money & time" if they served to enflame hatred; he also had little patience for Confederate reunions, saying, "I don't think I have the stomach to stand the oratorical nonsense" that would be involved.

    Original Author: John Mosby

    Created: June 9, 1894

    Medium: Handwritten letter

    Courtesy of The Museum of the Confederacy

    https://www.encyclopediavirginia.org/media_player?mets_filename=evm00003514mets.xml
     
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  7. kungfuliberal

    kungfuliberal Well-Known Member

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    Who gives a damn? Dude, it's been over for 150 years. The pointed hat lies and denials don't cut it....never did, never will. But you keep posting...hopefully it'll keep you off the streets.
     
  8. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    So?
     
  9. Cosmo

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    I suggest you actually read what Mosby said before jumping to conclusions.
     
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  10. Xyce

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    Thank you for sharing.

    That was his opinion, and it adds to the rich history of the CSA.
     
  11. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Who says "If you don't vote for me you ain't black" (because we own you)?
     
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    Lefties love government.
     
  13. kungfuliberal

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    My apologies....this was meant for another poster.
     
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  14. Xyce

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    Unbelievable...

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    Don't forget Southern Terrorists entering the North to kidnap Northern citizens & force them into slavery.
     
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  16. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    No, we just don't automatically hate it.

    Thomas Jefferson, the main and major founder of the idea that the best government governs least was himself IN government, was he not?

    The government first and foremost should be JUST. A just government would not allow slavery whether it was large or small, would it?
     
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    Picard/Stewart is the very MASTER of exasperation. He OWNS that emotion within the Acting Profession.
     
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    He's trying to distinguish the States from their militaries? There was that sentiment on both sides but it was much more prevalent AFTER the war than during. Lee was always careful to call the Union Army "those people" the idea being that he was attacking certain people in America rather than the USA itself.

    Or it's just wrong punctuation. I don't know why but if you compose as you go you tend to drop commas in all kinds of strange, places
     
  19. Xyce

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    The Civil War was not fought to preserve slavery; it was a reaction to the aggressiveness by the North.
     
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    The Civil War was fought to preserve slavery. It was instigated by aggressiveness against the North at Fort Sumter.
     
  21. Xyce

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    It was fought because of Northern aggressiveness against slavery, especially Northern terrorists coming down to the South to kill women and children. Additionally, it was fought because Northerners would send literature down to the South to cause slave rebellions. The Secret Six never saw a jail cell for financing domestic terrorism that led to the death of women and children. When a region of the country fails to imprison the financiers of domestic terrorism, the bonds that held the Union together were destroyed. To say that it was fought to preserve slavery is an offense against the memories of the women and children who died at the hands of Northern terrorists and those who ignited insurrections in the South, which led to the death of even more women and children.
     
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  22. Phyxius

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    Delusional revisionist "lost cause" bullshit.
     
  23. Xyce

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    These are actually facts. The Secret Six were never imprisoned for funding domestic terrorism that led to the death of women and children. Since you cannot refute this, you've lost this argument. The revisionist history is hagiographic treatment that you and your ilk have given of the North. Instead of a nuanced approach that respects history in full context, you glorify the Union side. Additionally, Lincoln was a war criminal who stepped on the Constitution by silencing dissenting journalists. (1) Another war criminal, William Tecumseh Sherman was never court-martialed for killing civilians and destroying their property. Instead, he was praised.

    1. https://www.historynet.com/stop-the-presses-lincoln-suppresses-journalism.htm
     
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  24. kungfuliberal

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    And then the "Southern Strategy" took
     
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    The "Southern Strategy": Lyndon Johnson saying, "I'll have those [expletive for black people] voting Democratic for the next 200 years."
     
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