Almost Half of U.S. Births Happen Outside Marriage, Signaling Cultural Shift

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    pro-lifers believe the gov should be able to force you to give birth
    pro-abortionists believe the gov should be able to force you to abort your birth

    PRO-CHOICEers believe this should be the womens choice, not the governments choice
     
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  2. chris155au

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    You know of people who believe that?
     
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    Divorce rate has been around 50% for at least 40 yrs.
    Seems that piece of paper wasn't all that meaningful.
    So for 40 yrs, the nucleus of the family has been being destroyed.
     
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    You sacrificed a lot, but kept everything? How does that make sense?
     
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    Can you support that it is "mainly Christian women doing it?"

    So when IS it killing a fetus?
     
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    For near 40 yrs, 50% who made your so called commitment, divorced. So, it's 50/50 commitment at best.
     
  7. FreshAir

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    there are some that believe the government should be able to force people on welfare not to have children, so yes a few

    but most of the big government folks want the government to force people to have children
     
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    it was already supported multiple times... read the last couple pages, most abortions are had by Christian women

    "30% of aborting women identified themselves as Protestant and 24% identified themselves as Catholic (AGI)."

    30 + 24 = 54%

    so just in those two groups of Christians it's 54% which is over half, which means most abortions are had by Christians
     
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    Wtf do you mean, "what was the 'bad' decision?" Are you saying that becoming a single parent is just happen stance?

    Involuntarily, I still do with my tax dollars.
     
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    We make heroes of them. Get real man
     
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    That has already been shown

    fe·tus
    /ˈfēdəs/
    noun
    1. an unborn offspring of a mammal, in particular an unborn human baby more than eight weeks after conception.
     
  12. Bluesguy

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    No we believe babies in the womb should not be killed indiscriminately

    No they believe the fetus, the baby, in the womb can be killed indiscriminately.

    They believe women can choose indiscriminately kill the fetus, the baby, in the womb and support policies to allow that.

    If you personally do not support the practice of abortion why not, what do you personally have against abortion?
     
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    I am pro-choice, I do not support big government forcing rape victims to have their rapists babies... do you?

    in fact I would like to see the morning after pill included in rape kits as a option for rape victims.. but sadly pro-lifers are against that choice
     
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    single moms and dads that do a great job are heroes.... no reason to demonize them
     
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    The majority do a horrible job. No one actually vets that job that they are doing before praising them. It's a badge of honor in the intersectionality community to come from a single parent home or be a single parent. Being aware of stats, I usually apply greater risk to a person if they are either.
     
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    divorce happens, even the rights faithful leader Trump made some women single parents
     
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    Sure, but just because its not the norm doesn't mean to say that it can work just as well.

    Marriage may symbolise commitment, but it doesn't seem to reinforce it, given the shocking 50% divorce rate. You mention "God." Are religious by any chance?
     
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    Well where did you get the outdated quote from?

    You do realise that 73.7% of the country calls themselves a Christian, right?
     
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    Based on what evidence?
     
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    Okay. Now why didn't you respond to this?:
     
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    Well you must be referring to single parents who specifically made the decision to be a single parent, but how many people is that? Isn't single parenthood mostly happen stance? Due to death of the other partner, imprisonment of the other partner, cheating of the other partner etc.

    Yes, but how did you "USED" to reward them?
     
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    And you support abortion and all for the practice of abortion in their country. Else what what do you have against abortion? Pro-lifers as a group are not against the mother making her self infertile by the use if hormones.

    Sadly pro-choicers would like to see mothers able to kill their babies even a minute before they are born.
     
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    Do you think a mother who intentionally brings a child into this world without providing a father is heroic? How about married mom's and dads that do a great job are they heros too?

    I don't get the "hero" part.
     
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    This has already been shown in this very thread.
     
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    Birth control is about 91% effective - you are basically telling women “sorry you tried but your life is ruined by chance and you have to keep it even though it’s easily correctable” - is an absurd argument. There is no life for eight weeks — it isn’t even consider a fetus.

    That is a blatient bald faced lie
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