America's Team fails to live up to its name

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  1. Texas Republican

    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why don't all you libs tell the players to stay out of politics and just play football. I don't need to be lectured on politics from someone half my age who knows half as much as I do.
     
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    In case you haven't noticed, there's an election coming in 2018. Dems can't win elections by debating the issues so they name-call and character assassinate opponents. Trump WINS when he takes on these situations that cause the left to go into faux outrage. In other words, Trump is playing you dems like a violin and the people are turning away from the DNC.

    But you won't ever know it until the next election because the media is lying to you and brainwashing you into believing that you ARE winning. SURPRISE! again.

    Steve
     
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    MMMMM--Why don't all you trump fans tell him to stay out of football, basketball,baseball,women's looks,women's bodies,to name a few & concentrate on politics-Oh,he doesn't know anything about that either-
     
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    Feel better?
     
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    The military is one of the last things people are supposed to serve in. although he got everything else wrong, Trump at least understood its best to stay out of the military. Thus why he dodged serving, because being a draft dodger is a Pro-American thing.

    We should be worrying about NK blowing us off the face of the earth, not whether or not a player kneels, unless we've become that sensitive as a society. You have my full condolences that your experiences serving in the military have made you this sensitive.
     
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    If there's any bit of emotion I'm showing, its questioning why this has erupted into such a big issue. Something that doesn't even need to be a small issue.

    Kneeling is a way of worshipping something., just so you know. Until Kaspernick did what he did, there was never such a large emphasis on whether or not you stood for the National Anthem. Let's deal with the facts. It is a piece of national fanfare, a little less or more than two minutes long, there is no law on the books (although I'm willing to bet Trump will make one) requiring everyone to stand during the National Anthem. In fact, I encourage people to kneel at next years Indy 500, NASCA, and Super Bowl events.

    I am not showing anything in the least of being cold or heartless or unpatriotic, I simply refuse to go down such a ridiculous rabbit hole that had been created by those on the right.
     
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    I am American as the next guy, and the National Anthem doesn't offend me in the least, but the outrage you guys are showing over this is embarrassing America.
     
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    Yes, little boys could be figure skaters or ballet dancers instead of a more manly sport like football

    We still have primative and tribal instincts that must be assuaged
     
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    In lib la la land its unthinkable that any fan should even complain about these morons and their non-footbal opinions
     
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    Complain all you like. It is people like you that complained that black people were sitting in the front of the bus too
     
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    they did
     
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    Yes, questioning this, not being able to understand this, is a symptom of psychopathy.

    Are you, by any chance a fan of rap music? That too is a symptom of psychopathy.

    But I'll bet dollars to donuts that you believe yourself to be empathetic. Right?
     
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    Not respecting the flag or anthem emboldens our adversaries as they think us weak and divided. And they are of course correct in that diagnosis.
     
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    Well, politics has no place in free speech--and who says the people playing sports don't have a right to speak?
    The rest of your post is pretty disengenuos,one death is too many-----
     
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    So the Cowboys showed "unity" and all of them took a knee before the national anthem. Here are my thoughts.

    If every player on the team and Jerry and every Cowboy employee wanted to take a knee to protest something before the anthem, then that's great. Freedom of speech is a great thing. BUT, what if some of the Cowboys did not want to protest anything. What if they love their country and want to show respect for the flag and our country without trying to use the flag and anthem as a time to get out some kind of message? Are they able to not take a knee without any repercussions from ownership or fans calling them racist for not having an agenda? Taking the knee BEFORE the anthem is an improvement, but the Cowboys (NFL) are still using the anthem to say something political and I suspect that many have been forced to join the demonstration in which they have no interest. That's not free speech.

    Was this a one time thing or is this the new norm for every game? What happens if someone protests this and decides to raise their left leg and spit during the pre anthem kneeling? Will this be adopted by everybody else as well.

    Players should feel free to do what they want during the anthem and team owners and fans can react how they want. That way, everybody has freedom of speech and they can deal with the consequences of their actions.
     
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    The NFL is trying to appease the Left and the Left wants them dead or under their control. So when the Left says "cut off your arm, then I will be satisfied and we will have peace". Only a fool believes them and cuts off his arm. For then one is even more helpless before these blood thirst leeches.

    I was hoping it would be Dallas that would have the "Sista Soljia" moment so we could all rally behind them.

    That picture of the Cowboys kneeling made me sadder than I know how to express correctly.
     
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    Bad advisors and stupid owners are always bad business.

    “Not only are the political stakes high but the business ones are too. Football draws the biggest TV audiences of American sports and is important to the bottom line of a host of major media companies. Sunday Ticket is one of the NFL’s premier franchises, earning it $1.5 billion a year in licensing revenue, and is a major customer draw for DirecTV.”

    THE WALL STREET JOURNAL, DirecTV Allows Some NFL Refunds After Anthem Controversy, By Joe Flint, Amol Sharma and Andrew Beaton, Sept. 26, 2017.
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/directv-allows-some-nfl-refunds-after-anthem-controversy-1506453159
     
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    We will see if fans continue not only to watch but spend money on footbal
    Sure

    I don't expect to see the NFL disappear over this issue nor do I want it to

    But if rating decline and fan interest wanes it will hurt the players pocketbooks eventually
     
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    Really really really bad business would be to fire or fine one of these players
     
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    It is the only way out for the NFL, but it is late.
    The owners should have been trying to unload their teams as soon as Kaepernick took a principled knee.
     
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    The black players (and now their guilt-ridden liberal white teammates) wanted to get America's attention so they chose to disrespect the flag

    And it worked

    The dirty SOB's have our attention
     
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    Thats a stupid comment no better than the morons disrespecting the flag

    The only arguement you people have is to call your opponents racists
     
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    Many black players and now a few white players have not been doing that

    And neither did the gang formerly known as America's Team

    They stood there with locked arms like a line of chorus girls
     
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    Isn't the whole anthem, salute to the flag/troops before the game POLITICS? Last time I looked patriotism(one way or another) was a fundamental compenent of politics regardless of partisanship.

    Isn't it politics when the government pays the league to have the teams participate in an opening ceremony? Again, regardless of partisanship.

    Seems the "keep politics out" meme is just a tad hypocritical.
     
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    Are you saying if one is patriotic, he is political or being patriotic is a political thing? That one can't be patriotic without being political? That patriotism is nothing more than normal politics much like taking political sides over healthcare, whether to vote Republican or Democrat, tax cuts, etc.

    I never looked at it that way. Is being unpatriotic not being political or part of politics? I do think both of our major political parties try to paint the other as being unpatriotic. Paint the other of not loving America.

    When it comes to playing the national anthem before a sporting event, far as I'm concerned they can do away with it. Playing or singling of the Star Spangled Banner began during WWI and was done during the seventh inning stretch during baseball season. I suppose tradition carried it on from there. But back then the Star Spangled Banner wasn't the national anthem, it didn't become so until 1931. The Star Spangled Banner was just like singing America the Beautiful today.
     

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