an argument in defense of Chauvin

I think the facts of drugs in his system should be irrelevant because the officer should have assumed it, and handled him thus.

As the bystanders pleaded with him to release him from his hold, I got the distinct impression that the only reason Chauvin didn't was his ego.

That is unforgivable, to cave to the bystanders would be a blow to his ego? And for that a man must die, what, to save his ego? What in holy hell was going on in this officer's mind? Did he not hear Floyd's call "I can't breath" ? Was he not, by that juncture, tamed? Would not the call to his 'mama' be the calls of desperate man in a state of death throws? Well, if not first degree murder, then second-degree unintentional murder, third-degree murder, and second-degree manslaughter, which, in the end, I believe was what he was convicted of. I think the prosecution got it right. If there were such a thing as first degree criminal ignorance, they can toss that one in there, too.

 

This was an excellent jury. They were cautious, methodical, diligent, and deliberate. .

 

But ultimately, they find Chauvin guilty of 2nd degree murder not for what he did, but what he did NOT do: Floyd was in the custody and in the care of the cops and they showed depraved indifference for his distress. They found a duty in cops with those in their custody and care for due care. This is a systemic change I think cops and the MSM want to avoid realizing.

 

It's more than obvious you have no idea what you're talking about in relation to medical attention being denied to George Floyd be it his state conviction or federal conviction.

 

I'm sorry, I cannot give much credence to anyone whose sig is:

Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out

 

I would challenge everyone to watch the new documentary produced by a local reporter in Minneapolis and then come back and explain why these officer who properly carried out their duties as they were trained are in a prison. George Floyd is responsible for his death and no one else. He was a lousy street thug who preyed on the neighbor and our society in general whose life and own actions resulted in his death.

https://www.thefallofminneapolis.com/

Which of you will do so?

 

The medical assistance was called for 39 seconds after they first encountered Floyd. Floyd insisted he had taken no drugs. Floyd was already suffering a pulmonary crisis as they were putting him the vehicle. Floyd was a dead man standing before he forced his way out of vehicle onto the ground. There was NOTHING further the officer could have done or should have done that would have saved his life. They are not responsible for the delay in the EMT's getting there it was due to a miscommunication between the ambulance and dispatcher and the address. The engaged in the proper for which they were trained to do MRT due to Floyd's continued struggling with them and assaults on them.

Go watch the new documentary with new footage I linked to above and then come back and justify these officers being in a prison.

 

NOPE!
When Floyd had NO pulse Chauvin said NO to another cop to turn him over and Chauvin CONTINUED with his knee on his neck until the Medics arrived and had to tell Chauvin to get his knee off.
Chauvin was legally required to have given Floyd CPR/medical assistance when he had no pulse and he chose NOT to.
The rest is guilty off to prison history.

 

https://www.reuters.com/legal/us-su...auvins-appeal-george-floyd-murder-2023-11-20/

Supreme Court seems to feel justice was served.

 

Only an A hole would make an argument for Chauvin. Piss off

 

Thank You!
I hadn't been aware of the appeal to the SCOTUS.

US Supreme Court rejects ex-cop Chauvin's appeal in George Floyd murder
By John Kruzel
November 20, 202311:45 AM ESTUpdated a day ago


WASHINGTON, Nov 20 (Reuters) - The U.S. Supreme Court on Monday declined to hear an appeal by former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin of his conviction for the murder of George Floyd during a 2020 arrest, which sparked widespread protests against police brutality and racism.

The justices turned away Chauvin's appeal that he filed after a Minnesota appellate court upheld his 2021 murder conviction and rejected his request for a new trial. Chauvin had argued that jury bias and certain rulings by the presiding judge deprived him of his right to a fair trial under the U.S. Constitution's Sixth Amendment.'

'Chauvin, who is white, is serving a 22-1/2 year prison sentence for murdering Floyd, who was Black, by kneeling on a handcuffed Floyd's neck for more than nine minutes during an arrest.'

https://www.reuters.com/legal/us-su...auvins-appeal-george-floyd-murder-2023-11-20/

 

After all this time one would think that you would stop trying to defend Chauvin and his 3 thugs with your wishful claims.
Even Chauvin admitted guilt it not medically doing for Floyd what he was sworn to do.


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Dec 15, 2021 — The Justice Department announced today that Derek Chauvin, 45, pleaded guilty in federal court to two violations of a federal civil ..

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'Specifically, defendant Chauvin admitted that he failed to render medical aid to Mr. Floyd, although he saw that Mr. Floyd was lying on the ground, in serious medical need, and although he was aware that MPD policy required him to provide emergency medical aid, including CPR, to an arrestee who needs it. Defendant Chauvin admitted that his failure to render medical aid resulted in Mr. Floyd’s bodily injury and death.'

"In the plea agreement, defendant Chauvin admitted that on May 25, 2020, he willfully violated Mr. Floyd’s constitutional right to be free from an officer’s use of unreasonable force. Specifically, defendant Chauvin admitted that he held his left knee across Mr. Floyd’s neck, back and shoulder and his right knee on Mr. Floyd’s back and arm. The plea agreement states that Mr. Floyd remained restrained, prone and handcuffed on the ground for approximately 10 minutes. Defendant Chauvin further admitted that he continued to use force even though he was aware that Mr. Floyd had stopped resisting, talking and moving, and even though he was aware that Mr. Floyd had lost consciousness and a pulse. Defendant Chauvin admitted that Minneapolis Police Department (MPD) policy and training requires officers to stop using force when a subject is not resisting and to move an arrestee from the prone position into a side recovery or seated position because the prone position may make it more difficult to breathe. Defendant Chauvin admitted that his willful use of unreasonable force resulted in Mr. Floyd’s bodily injury and death because his actions impaired Mr. Floyd’s ability to obtain and maintain sufficient oxygen to sustain Mr. Floyd’s life.

 

Did you bother to watch the video? Yes he pleaded to federal charges so he could be sent to a federal prison and not the state prison.

There was NOTHING the officers could have done medically that would have saved his life, what they did do was their proper training as they awaited the EMT's to arrive. It did not matter if Floyd could have breathed it was his heart an pulmonary system that went into arrest and could not move blood through his lungs and through his body. Regardless his ability to breath was never obstructed. He was dying before he ever threw himself to the ground.

 

Sure thing cupcake.
Ya should have let Chauvin's defense attorney know of your brilliant defense.
Opportunity missed and because of you Chauvins doing 22.5 yrs.

 

I see you did not watch the video which conclusively proves otherwise. His knee was not on his neck but in the proper position AS THEY WERE TRAINED. Police are NOT legally required to provide medical assistance in such a situation they are not trained EMT's. They are trained in using MRT on a person resisting arresting and refusing to placed into custody. It was Floyd who fought with the police to get OUT of the vehicle where he could have sat quietly and awaited the medical assistance to arrive. It was Floyd who continued that struggle while on the ground assaulting the officers by kicking them. Their training was to keep him in that position so as not to start to struggle further. But the fact remains he was a dead man already and it was due to his previous health conditions and the drugs he ingested, it was not the first time he had done so.

 

It's not mine why are you being obtuse here. The documentary is by a local news reporter who was on the case at the time. If you refuse to watch it you have no grounds to comment on it and I challenge you to disprove anything in it as I state here. It's not a laughing matter you know.

 

So you too refuse to watch the video this journalist has put together with the FULL evidence provided? Just watch the first 4 or so minutes of ALL the actual body cam footage and tell me where the officers committed a murder. Then if you REALLY want to know the facts watch the interviews with those involved some for the first time every speaking out. Because anyone who has your attitude about it is grossly mistaken on what actually occurred.

 

You're the laughing matter.
James Field's supporters still claim that Heather Hoyer died of a heart attack/failure because she was overweight not because she was hit by Jame's Field's car even though the coroner's report said she died from blunt trauma to her chest which caused her heart to give out.

I'm not watching almost 2 hrs filled with claims that were debunked long ago.
Darnella Frazier's video of George Floyd being tortured to death needs no Chauvin documentary.
It's right up there with "2,000 Mules" another sham.

Derek Chauvin speaks out from prison in new George Floyd documentary The Fall of Minneapolis: 'The whole trial was a sham'

• Chauvin and the other cops jailed for Floyd's death interviewed from prison
• Documentary suggests Floyd's autopsy was altered by the FBI
• It says Democrat officials and prosecutors rushed to judgement to prosecute
• The Fall of Minneapolis is a free, crowdfunded doc by Minneapolis reporter

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-documentary-Fall-Minneapolis-trial-sham.html

 

Has nothing to do with Floyd

Just try the first minutes of actual body cam lots of which you have not seen and the Frazier video has been shown it lacks proper perspective and angle. That you label it as "torture" shows how lacking is you awareness of what actually happened. Then if you are really open minded watch the interviews with people with first hand knowledge and experience. Then the new documentations on the autopsy and internal discussions in the prosecutors office.

 

The court wasn't about to give Chauvin a new trial because if his conviction were overturned, the Blacks would go on riotous rampages again, complete with violent confrontations, looting, burning, pillaging, and all the rest of it. It will be years before they finally give the man a truly complete, fair trial.

That said, sure, Chauvin should have simply slapped cuffs on Floyd, tossed his drugged-up ass in the back of the patrol car, and waited for the EMT people to show up. No matter how you may try to avoid it, when you touch ****, you'll always end up getting it on you....

 

ffs!
Collins, author of the book and documentary producer was fired or resigned from WCCO and not surprising who she's married to.
She and her reprehensible husband sure have gullible followers.
The police chief who testified at Chauvin's trial was one of the officers who sued Knoll.
Doesn't get any better than that!

'WCCO: Ask Liz Collins to Step Down Due to White Supremacy Ties'

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'Liz Collins of WCCO is married to Bob Kroll, the president of the Minneapolis Police Union.

In 2007 Kroll was named in a lawsuit four black police officers — including the current chief — brought against the Minneapolis Police Department for discrimination.'

https://www.change.org/p/wcco-wcco-ask-liz-collin-to-step-down-due-to-white-supremacy-ties



Bob Kroll (police officer)

Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Bob_Kroll_(police_...

In 2007, Kroll was named in a racial discrimination lawsuit brought against the city of Minneapolis by five black officers, including police Medaria Arradondo ...

 

The video shows Chauvin playing a role in Floyd’s death and therefore he should be held accountable. But feel free to spin things however you like.

 

No it doesn't and in fact completely refutes such a statement and proves he was following the exact training he received in dealing with such situations. Again obviously you have not watched the video with the new evidence provided.

 

Is there a video showing Floyd not handcuffed with Chauvin kneeling on his neck?

 

She was not fired she left the station to tell her story. And that refutes what exactly? This is all you have. You are attacking police unions now?