an argument in defense of Chauvin

Of course he was in custody and had been physically resisting arrest to the point of harming himself and they were using the MRT as they were trained.

Again stop asking inane questions if you are not going to watch the full video or egen the arrest part with the new evidence and new footage and interviews with those on the scene.

 

Right…so handcuffed and yet Chauvin needed to kneel on Floyd’s neck? Four grown men couldn’t handle a handcuffed prisoner without kneeling on the persons neck? Hahaha…stop your nonsense.

 

You and all your new hero's theories are what's insane.


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Apr 1, 2021 — Sgt David Pleoger tells trial that Chauvin and the other officers should have stopped using force once Floyd stopped resisting.

 

He wasn't kneeling on his neck it was across his shoulder as the new documentary once again shows, and yes that was the proper MRT position in which to keep the suspect who had repeatedly fought with them. Floyd did not suffocate to death, his breathing was never obstructed, he died because his heart stopped pumping efficiently and could not move oxygen through his lungs, pulmonary arrest. It began back when they were trying to put him in the vehicle where he told them he could not breath even though no one was touching him other than to get him into the vehicle. All he had to do was sit in the vehicle and wait for medical attention although there is little reason to believe they could have stabilized him and gotten him to a hospital in time nor if even there there was anything they could have done to save him.

Floyd is responsible for his own death.

 

As proven in court and in this video, yes there was he had already stopped resisting before only to start again and he was injuring himself as he flayed on the ground that is where his head injuries came from and there was no reason to move him off the ground. Pleoger is wrong any unnecessary force was being used they were using the MRT they were trained to used on such a suspect while awaiting transport for them. Watch the video.

And it DIDN'T matter that is not what killed Floyd

 

Looks like his neck

 

And go look at the other angles in the videos from the body cams which show he weight is on his shin across the shoulder and that is he exact position the MRT training instructs them to use while other officers restrain his legs.

You can start at 59:10 here and this is specifically discussed https://www.thefallofminneapolis.com/


Also here

MPD training materials show knee-to-neck restraint similar to the one used on Floyd



https://www.kare11.com/article/news...floyd/89-9f002e3f-972a-4410-86cb-50a1237fc496

And you keep ignoring the fact that Floyd did NOT die because he was suffocated, his breathing was never restricted. Chauvin did not cause the pulmonary arrest that killed Floyd which began back at the first vehicle.

 

Which doesn’t negate the fact that he did in fact have his knee on Floyd’s neck. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

You may need an anatomy class to determine neck vs shoulder

 

See above the the link to the other body cam footage and training materials. The particular photo his been refuted over and over due to the telescopic lens and perspective.

The fact remains Floyd DID NOT DIE OF SUFFICATION OR ASSFIXIATION why do you keep implying Chauvin caused him to suffocate therefore is responsible for his death?

 

Yes it does, his force was across the shoulder and nothing to do with force on his neck would have cause what killed him. The officers were following their training and their actions did not cause his death. Why are they in jail?

 

Nonsense.
I implied nothing. I showed you a pick of a knee on a neck.
Which you claim is a shoulder.

 

Where did I imply Chauvin caused him to suffocate? Please show me the post where I stating such.
The photo has been “refuted”??? Are you saying it’s a fake photo???

 

So then you agree Floyd did not die from suffocation due to his neck being constricted?

I explained why that conclusions drawn from it have been refuted as does the video starting a the point I gave you. I have also shown that the positions the officers took were in perfect alignment with the training they received.

So
1. Floyd did not suffocate Chauvin's knee had nothing to do with his death.
2. The officers acted in complete accordance with their training.
3. Floyd was dying before he ever hit the ground due to his own ill health, the drugs he induced and the physical resistance in which he engaged.
4. Even had the EMT's arrived within their normal response time, their delay due to a communication error on the address, it is highly unlikely Floyd would be alive today either having expired or entering a brain dead coma and life support being removed.

So why are these officers in prison?

 

I believe the officers exacerbated the problem. Especially Chauvin. They all played a role in Floyd’s death. You can deny it all you like. There was no need for four grown men to handle a handcuffed man the way they did. Floyd, being handcuffed, was no threat. No need to kneel on his neck. Period. End of story. Cheers.

 

"Exacerbated"???? FLOYD exacerbated his problems. He started into pulmonary arrest back at the first vehicle before they had hardly touched him let alone he was on the ground. And he CONTINUED to resist and fight and struggle even after they had him is the vehicle and he fought out the otherside and then while on the ground. He began to injure himself banging his head on the ground. They were TRAINED to do exactly as they did and applied the MRT to keep him calm and under control and not likely to begin struggling AGAIN. Period end of story and you have presented nothing that changes that.

There was NOTHING they could have done to prevent his eventual dying that they did not cause.

So why are they in a prison for causing his death?