AOC cuts the Conservative Sacred Cow

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  1. kungfuliberal

    kungfuliberal Well-Known Member

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    Ahhh, but Pelosi can't control the people who will vote AOC back into office, nor can she control the press. As for AOC's numbers....time will tell, as does who is being polled.
     
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    No one gives a flying YKW about the neocon/********* GOP's lame attempt at psychological judo....they're scared of anyone that cuts through the crap to point the finger directly at their machinations.
    AOC isn't perfect, but her take on the sacred cow Reagan is spot on....and the FACTS can't be denied or snowed over.
     
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    Absolutely!!! The reason that are going after her so hard is because she has no problem exposing them for what and who they are and there are no shortages of videos showing just how perfectly she does it.
     
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    The only "sacred cows" AOC has made squeal are The Bezos/Amazon/Wapo cow, the NYDP cow , and the NYCDP cow.
    She sliced off a neat $27B right off their choice tender hind quarters.

    Republican pols can only dream about doing that kind of damage to the Democrat establishment - not that they would ever really want to. ;-)
     
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    kungfuliberal Well-Known Member

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    Again, what PRECISELY can you quote from the article that fits your description here. I'll wait.
     
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    Here's the actual politico article. So what is illegal or wrong in what is being proposed, since the GOP won't even allow the discussion on the Congressional floor when then have the SOTH seat?

    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/23/ocasio-cortez-banks-guns-immigration-climate-1289321
     
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    Yeah, I actually said that in my post you quoted: "4) AOC has been declared by the press - whether anyone likes it or not - the Kingslayer of Congress because she took out a senior Dem in Congress." When attempting to rebut someone, it helps to actually read the post first. No point in addressing the rest of your post there since you didn't read mine. *shrugs*

    Ah, but she can. A rumor here, a smear campaign there, an interpretation of the rules over here, words whispered in the right ears over there - yeah, she can do it. The same people who conspired to ensure Hilla got the nom are well able to take down a relative noob like Occasional Cortex. And Pelosi has many more connections to the media than Cortex does simply by experience and years alone.

    She keeps getting her facts wrong. And the issue isn't some kind of GOP judo but rather her own political immaturity doing it.

    I'll say it again: When you have the RW here saying to a man that they WANT Occasional Cortex to keep speaking - that's not fear and there's no way to interpret it as such.
     
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    That Reagan pitted white working class against brown and black working class.
     
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    1. You REPEAT your skewed version of reality, as the the MSM or "press" didn't deem her a "kingslayer of Congress", as far as I know....unless you read something in the right wing press like the New York Post. Repeating a false narrative doesn't make it true.

    2. Ah, but what you described was done to Obama...and he WON a second term IN ADDITION TO BEATING OUT HILLARY WHO WAS THE PARTY FAVORITE. People are not as stupid as you think, which is why the GOP has relied heavily on redistricting & other voter suppression tactics in local elections in recent years.

    3. Nice try, but you can't dodge the FACTS of her critique of the Reagan mythology, as I documented on this thread a few times. I already acknowledged her errors....as you incorrectly accused me, When attempting to rebut someone, it helps to actually read the post first. No point in addressing the rest of your post there since you didn't read mine. *shrugs*.
     
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    Newsflash for ya....THE PEOPLE in that part of NYC DID NOT WANT WHAT THE AFOREMENTIONED WAS SELLING, because they knew what was in the fine print of it's execution (economic, social gentrification).
     
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    Then why is consistent exaggeration of 1 case of fraud to insinuate that the vast majority of folk on welfare (the image being majority of black and brown), DESPITE THE FACT THAT THE MAJORITY OF WELFARE RECIPIENTS ARE SINGLE PARENT WHITE WOMEN!
     
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    Yes, but those little people are irrelevant to the NYDP and the NYCDP which now both want AOC out of Congress.

    Who will Cuomo, Diblasio, Pelosi, Schumer et al choose to primary her?
     
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    YOU say "AOC got press because of here unexpected defeat of a long time incumbent in the local race..." I say "
    "Yeah, I actually said that in my post you quoted: "4) AOC has been declared by the press - whether anyone likes it or not - the Kingslayer of Congress because she took out a senior Dem in Congress." I fail to see the difference. What ARE you arguing about?

    Apples and oranges. The party apparatus was nowhere near as geared against Obama as it was against Sanders in 2016. And Pelosi, aged and addled as she is is still a million times more powerful and canny than Cortex. I've argued this elsewhere before: I've never seen - in ANY organization - a collection of Powers That Be which puts up with an irritant like Occasional Cortex for long before they decide to swat her.

    I wasn't even arguing against that, never even mentioned Reagan. Like I said - read the posts first before you rebut them.
     
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    If somebody finds AOC a political intellectual and visionary, they might just be idiots.

    If somebody says "welfare queen", and you immediately think black women... you might just he the racist.

    But I do enjoy the radical left continuing to show America how absolutley ridiculous and disconnected they are.
     
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    Ready?

    A higher percentage of black people are on welfare per capita. Which means, if somebody actually took Reagan's words as racist, which what he said wasnt, the actual facts would mean it isnt racist because it's true.
     
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    thanks for making my point regarding how the working folk who make NYC run are considered "little people" by various gov't / municipal entities....AOC scares the hell out of the aforementioned as well....and despite who the pick to run against her, it's the people who put her in will do so again.

    The GOP pitched a bitch because she deflated the hot air bag surrounding the "Reagan legend". Deal with it, America.
     
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    Yup, just another in along list of AOC derangement syndrome threads ...
     
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    1. You fail to see the difference because you treat your personal supposition and conjecture as fact. I asked you to supply the press quote of "king slayer"....you can't, so your OPINION essentially carries no water outside your own self declaration.

    2. YOU put forth a premise of a potential smear campaign to derail a popular elected official....I point out that what was EXACTLY done to Obama by the right wing noise machine for 8 years. They failed, so your hopeful premise of Pelosi being successful in such a vein is just wishful thinking on your part.

    3. the OP and it's subject title is about Reagan's inflated legend. YOU just keep trying to dodge those facts that I put forth to support the OP....the chronology of the posts makes you out to be either incapable of comprehending what you read or a very poor liar. In any event, try to stay on target and honestly respond to what is bein said instead of trying to discredit anything you don't like with these lame attempts of dodge and denial. If you've got nothing stronger to come back with, I won't waste time with your circular "logic" any further.
     
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    translation: another Maga hat wearer who can't logically or factually refute or disprove what is being stated.
     
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    There are 214,750 active registered Democratic voters in the district. In the 2018 election she got just 110,318. Good luck to her in 2020 going against Pelosi, the wicked witch of the west won't be the one under the house then. BTW Pelosi can get millions dumped into the campaign of anyone who opposes AOC.
     
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    LOL! Any Republican who does not support AOC's war on The Amazon/WaPo/Bezos and the DP donor elite is rather stupid.
    Of course, the RP is not called "The Stupid Party for nothing. ;-)
    Hey! AOC! You go girl! :)
     
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    They want to believe we oppose AOC. They just don't get it. ;-)
     
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    There were no historical facts in AOC's latest pearl of wisdom, but here goes:

    "So you think about this image, 'welfare queens,'” Ocasio-Cortez continued, “and what [Reagan] was really trying to talk about… He's painting this really resentful vision of essentially black women who were doing nothing, [who] were sucks on our country, right? … That's not explicit racism, but it’s still rooted in racist caricature. It gives people a logical — a ‘logical’ — reason to say, 'Oh, yeah, no. Toss out the whole safety net.'"

    Reagan was rightly making an issue of welfare fraud, and AOC alleges the 'real' reason for his statement was racial. Her idiot projection only, they say it's a sign of insanity to know what others are thinking. Given her long trail of historical errors, such as as saying the ban on more than two terms for POTUS was to prevent FDR from running again, when it fact it was passed in 1947 when he was dead, only a fool would admire her statements.

    Lest you think I just don't like brown people, I'm half Puerto Rican and think AOC is a dangerous lunatic.
     
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    AOC is just another victim of Fake News.
    Now that the record has been corrected I am sure she will apologize repeated that lie about Ronald Reagan. ;-)

    "Though Reagan was known to stretch the truth, he did not invent that woman in Chicago. Her name was Linda Taylor, and it was the Chicago Tribune, not the GOP politician, who dubbed her the “welfare queen.” It was the Tribune, too, that lavished attention on Taylor’s jewelry, furs, and Cadillac—all of which were real."
    SLATE, The Welfare Queen, In the 1970s, Ronald Reagan villainized a Chicago woman for bilking the government. Her other sins—including possible kidnappings and murders—were far worse., By Josh Levin, DEC. 19 2013.
    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...an_made_her_a_notorious_american_villain.html
     
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    Wow, amazing link, is AOC aware of what a dirtbag the Welfare Queen really was?

    "What I found was a woman who destroyed lives, someone far more depraved than even Ronald Reagan could have imagined. In the 1970s alone, Taylor was investigated for homicide, kidnapping, and baby trafficking. The detective who tried desperately to put her away believes she’s responsible for one of Chicago’s most legendary crimes, one that remains unsolved to this day. Welfare fraud was likely the least of the welfare queen’s offenses."
     
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